5 Jun
2002
5 Jun
'02
2:04 p.m.
Hi
I doubt you'll find a computer inside. This is a
scale model for wind tunnel testing, not a complete shuttle.
Dwight
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
At 11:22 AM 6/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
Re: This seems on topic for this group and is > 10 years old...
What kind of computer does it have in it?
joe
Title of item: 1984 BOR-5 Russian Space Shuttle
Proto-Type
Seller: kruseintl
Starts: May-28-02 14:40:59 PDT
Ends: Jun-07-02 14:40:59 PDT
Price: Currently $75,200.00
To bid on the item, go to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1832679719
Item Description:
1984 BOR-5 Russian Space Shuttle Proto-Type
5 Jun
5 Jun
3:42 p.m.
Perhaps I should have added <Sarcasm>
Joe
At 04:04 PM 6/5/02 -0700, you wrote:
Hi
I doubt you'll find a computer inside. This is a
scale model for wind tunnel testing, not a complete shuttle.
Dwight
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
At 11:22 AM 6/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
Re: This seems on topic for this group and is > 10 years old...
What kind of computer does it have in it?
joe
Title of item: 1984 BOR-5 Russian Space Shuttle
Proto-Type
Seller: kruseintl
Starts: May-28-02 14:40:59 PDT
Ends: Jun-07-02 14:40:59 PDT
Price: Currently $75,200.00
To bid on the item, go to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1832679719
Item Description:
1984 BOR-5 Russian Space Shuttle Proto-Type
3:20 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for sale/trade?
Curt
4:11 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Curt Vendel wrote:
Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for sale/trade?
Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem with IIRC
2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've never fired them up
except for the hard drive module, I don't know if they work or not. They
do not have any software with them but they seem to be complete and were
working when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on most things
that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact me off list if you
are interested.
4:46 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000. Did it
serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to later versions of
Netware?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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Anyone have on
the original Novell 68000 based systems for sale/trade?
Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem with IIRC
2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've never fired them up
except for the hard drive module, I don't know if they work or not. They
do not have any software with them but they seem to be complete and were
working when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on most things
that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact me off list if you
are interested. 
8:43 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:46 pm, you wrote:
Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell
started on the 68000. Did it
serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to later versions of
Netware?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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That early it probably served files for a CP/M workstations.
8:16 a.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Sellam,
When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be NDS, Inc.
(How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom build-to-order hardware
and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and printing to
networked machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files served to all
of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so forth) and I
recall something about Noorda bringing in some heavy-weight programmer who
got their proprietary systems to connect to PC's and other systems and they
when they went into a total re-org, started working on Protective Mode OS's,
changed their name to Novell and really shook things up, one of my other
favorites was Corvus as they were really doing some remarkable stuff and
they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up. Anybody
remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers that had to load everything
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Festival
from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks. :-)
I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw one of the
first Novell fileservers that a "Network Engineer" was working on and when
he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a custom M68000
motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I was amazed and it always
stuck with me and I've been meaning to go looking for one as I've been
working with Novell since 2.12 generating those good old NET$OS files (Oh
joy!).
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
> > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for sale/trade?
> Actually, I have two systems including a
hard drive subsystem with IIRC
> 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've never fired them up
> except for the hard drive module, I don't know if they work or not. They
> do not have any software with them but they seem to be complete and were
working when
pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on most things
that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact me off list if you
are interested.
Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000. Did it
serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to later versions of
Netware?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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8:34 a.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to network our DEC Rainbows and
PC's back in 1984.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Sellam,
When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be NDS,
Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom build-to-order
hardware
and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and printing to
networked machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files served to
all
of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so forth)
and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some heavy-weight
programmer who got their proprietary systems to connect to PC's and
other systems and they when they went into a total re-org, started
working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their name to Novell and really
shook things up, one of my other favorites was Corvus as they were
really doing some remarkable stuff and
they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up. Anybody
remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers that had to load everything
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Festival
from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks. :-)
I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw one of
the first Novell fileservers that a "Network Engineer" was working on
and when he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a custom
M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I was amazed and
it always stuck with me and I've been meaning to go looking for one as
I've been working with Novell since 2.12 generating those good old
NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
> > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for
> > sale/trade?
> Actually, I have two systems including a
hard drive subsystem with
> IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've never fired
> them up except for the hard drive module, I don't know if they work
> or not. They do not have any software with them but they seem to be
> complete and were
working when
pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on most
things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact me off
list if you are interested.
Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000. Did
it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to later
versions of Netware?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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11:24 a.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
No way? Corvus worked on VMS too??? I never knew that, wow!
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to
network our DEC Rainbows and
PC's back in 1984.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Sellam,
When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be NDS,
Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom build-to-order
hardware
and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and printing to
networked machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files served to
all
of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so forth)
and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some heavy-weight
programmer who got their proprietary systems to connect to PC's and
other systems and they when they went into a total re-org, started
working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their name to Novell and really
shook things up, one of my other favorites was Corvus as they were
really doing some remarkable stuff and
they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up. Anybody
remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers that had to load everything
from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks. :-)
I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw one of
the first Novell fileservers that a "Network Engineer" was working on
and when he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a custom
M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I was amazed and
it always stuck with me and I've been meaning to go looking for one as
I've been working with Novell since 2.12 generating those good old
NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Festival
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
> > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for
> > sale/trade?
> Actually, I have two systems
including a hard drive subsystem with
> IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've never fired
> them up except for the hard drive module, I don't know if they work
> or not. They do not have any software with them but they seem to be
> complete and were
working
when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on most
things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact me off
list if you are interested.
Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000. Did
it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to later
versions of Netware?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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11:52 a.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
No, we didn't use our Corvus system with VMS. DEC Rainbows (semi-PC
compatible machines running MS-DOS) and PC's are what we used it with.
- Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
No way? Corvus worked on VMS too??? I never knew that, wow!
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Computer
That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to
network our DEC Rainbows
and PC's back in 1984.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Sellam,
When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be NDS,
Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom build-to-order
hardware
and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and printing to
networked machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files served
to
all
of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so forth)
and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some heavy-weight
programmer who got their proprietary systems to connect to PC's and
other systems and they when they went into a total re-org, started
working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their name to Novell and
really shook things up, one of my other favorites was Corvus as they
were really doing some remarkable stuff and
they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up. Anybody
remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers that had to load
everything
from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks. :-)
I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw one of
the first Novell fileservers that a "Network
Engineer" was working on
and when he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a custom
M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I was amazed
and it always stuck with me and I've been meaning to go looking for
one as I've been working with Novell since 2.12 generating those good
old NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
>
> > > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for
> > > sale/trade?
> >
> > Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem with
> > IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've never fired
> > them up except for the hard drive module, I
don't know if they
work
> > or not. They do not have any software with
them but they seem to
be
> complete
and were
> > working when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on most
> > things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact me off
> > list if you are interested.
>
> Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000.
> Did
> it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to later
> versions of Netware?
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Festival
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2:12 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
So.... the Rainbows, weren't they still using DECnet and LAT through the
built in AUI??? Was the Corvus Disk Server LAT Compatible or something???
This is very interesting.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
No, we didn't use our Corvus system with VMS. DEC
Rainbows (semi-PC
compatible machines running MS-DOS) and PC's are what we used it with.
- Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
No way? Corvus worked on VMS too??? I never knew that, wow!
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Computer
That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to
network our DEC Rainbows
and PC's back in 1984.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Sellam,
When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be NDS,
Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom build-to-order
hardware
and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and printing to
networked machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files served
to
all
of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so forth)
and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some heavy-weight
programmer who got their proprietary systems to connect to PC's and
other systems and they when they went into a total re-org, started
working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their name to Novell and
really shook things up, one of my other favorites was Corvus as they
were really doing some remarkable stuff and
they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up. Anybody
remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers that had to load
everything
from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks.
:-)
I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw one of
the first Novell fileservers that a "Network
Engineer" was working on
and when he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a custom
M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I was amazed
and it always stuck with me and I've been meaning to go looking for
one as I've been working with Novell since 2.12 generating those good
old NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
>
> > > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for
> > > sale/trade?
> >
> > Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem with
> > IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've never fired
> > them up except for the hard drive
module, I don't know if they
work
> > or not. They do not have any software
with them but they seem to
be
>
complete and were
> > working when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on most
> > things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact me off
> > list if you are interested.
>
> Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000.
> Did
> it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to later
> versions of Netware?
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Festival
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3:33 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
No, the Rainbow had no built-in network ports except a serial port which
we had hooked to our VAX and used it with terminal emulation.
Corvus had an add-in card for the Rainbow (and an ISA card for the PC)
that implemented their specific network protocol (I have no idea what it
was, but it was not ethernet or anything like that...)
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:12 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
So.... the Rainbows, weren't they still using DECnet and LAT through the
built in AUI??? Was the Corvus Disk Server LAT Compatible or
something???
This is very interesting.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
to
Computer
No, we didn't use our Corvus system with VMS. DEC
Rainbows (semi-PC
compatible machines running MS-DOS) and PC's are what we used it with.
- Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
No way? Corvus worked on VMS too??? I never knew that, wow!
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to network our DEC Rainbows
and PC's
back in 1984.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Sellam,
When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be
NDS, Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom
build-to-order
> hardware
> and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and printing networked
machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files served
to
> all
> of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so
> forth) and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some
> heavy-weight programmer who got their proprietary systems to connect to PC's
and other systems and they when they went into a total
re-org, started working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their name
to Novell and really shook things up, one of my other favorites was
Corvus as they were really doing some remarkable stuff and
they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up. Anybody
remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers that had to load
everything
from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks.
:-)
I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw one
of
the first Novell fileservers that a "Network
Engineer" was working
on and when he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a
custom M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I was
amazed and it always stuck with me and I've been meaning to go
looking for one as I've been working with Novell since 2.12
generating those good old NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
>
> > > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for
> > > sale/trade?
> >
> > Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem
> > with IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've
> > never fired
> > them up except for the hard drive
module, I don't know if they
work
> > or not. They do not have any software
with them but they seem to
be
>
complete and were
> > working when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on
> > most things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact
> > me off list if you are interested.
>
> Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000.
> Did it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to
> later versions of Netware?
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Festival
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4:24 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Okay, then that makes more sense. Yeah, the Apple and IBM cards were
called Corvus Transporter Cards, so I would have to assume the same on the
Dec Rainbows, it would be interesting to actually find one of those cards
and have a look at it.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:33 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
No, the Rainbow had no built-in network ports except a
serial port which
we had hooked to our VAX and used it with terminal emulation.
Corvus had an add-in card for the Rainbow (and an ISA card for the PC)
that implemented their specific network protocol (I have no idea what it
was, but it was not ethernet or anything like that...)
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:12 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
So.... the Rainbows, weren't they still using DECnet and LAT through the
built in AUI??? Was the Corvus Disk Server LAT Compatible or
something???
This is very interesting.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
to
Computer
No, we didn't use our Corvus system with VMS.
DEC Rainbows (semi-PC
compatible machines running MS-DOS) and PC's are what we used it with.
- Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
No way? Corvus worked on VMS too??? I never knew that, wow!
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to network our DEC Rainbows
and
PC's back in 1984.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Sellam,
When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be
NDS, Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom
build-to-order
> hardware
> and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and printing networked
machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files served
to
> all
> of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so
> forth) and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some
> heavy-weight programmer who got their proprietary systems to connect to
PC's and other systems and they when they went into a total
re-org, started working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their name
to Novell and really shook things up, one of my other favorites was
Corvus as they were really doing some remarkable stuff and
they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up. Anybody
remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers that had to load
everything
from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks.
:-)
I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw one
of
the first Novell fileservers that a "Network
Engineer" was working
on and when he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a
custom M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I was
amazed and it always stuck with me and I've been meaning to go
looking for one as I've been working with Novell since 2.12
generating those good old NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
>
> > > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for
> > > sale/trade?
> >
> > Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem
> > with IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've
> > never fired
> > them up except for the hard drive
module, I don't know if they
work
> > or not. They do not have any software
with them but they seem to
be
>
complete and were
> > working when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on
> > most things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact
> > me off list if you are interested.
>
> Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000.
> Did it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to
> later versions of Netware?
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Festival
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4:33 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Hi Curt,
I tried to email you, but it was rejected with an error message
"<curt(a)atari-history.com>ory.com>: host mail.atari-history.com[216.74.138.181]
said: 501 5.7.1 <marvin(a)rain.org>rg>... Sender domain must resolve". Got
your email, and I'll get back (somehow) with you next week.
Apologies to the rest of the listserver.
Marvin
Curt Vendel wrote:
Okay, then that makes more sense. Yeah, the Apple and IBM cards were
called Corvus Transporter Cards, so I would have to assume the same on the
Dec Rainbows, it would be interesting to actually find one of those cards
and have a look at it.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:33 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> No, the Rainbow had no built-in network ports except a serial port which
> we had hooked to our VAX and used it with terminal emulation.
>
> Corvus had an add-in card for the Rainbow (and an ISA card for the PC)
> that implemented their specific network protocol (I have no idea what it
> was, but it was not ethernet or anything like that...)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
> On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:12 PM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
>
>
> So.... the Rainbows, weren't they still using DECnet and LAT through the
> built in AUI??? Was the Corvus Disk Server LAT Compatible or
> something???
> This is very interesting.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:52 PM
> Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
>
>
> > No, we didn't use our Corvus system with VMS. DEC Rainbows (semi-PC
> > compatible machines running MS-DOS) and PC's are what we used it with.
> >
> > - Bob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
> > On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM
> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> >
> >
> > No way? Corvus worked on VMS too??? I never knew that, wow!
> >
> >
> > Curt
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> >
> >
> > > That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to network our DEC Rainbows
>
> > > and PC's back in 1984.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
> > > [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
> > > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > >
> > >
> > > Sellam,
> > >
> > > When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be
> > > NDS, Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom
> > > build-to-order
> >
> > > hardware
> > > and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and printing
> to
> > > networked machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files served
> > to
> > > all
> > > of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so
> > > forth) and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some
> > > heavy-weight programmer who got their proprietary systems to connect
>
> > > to PC's and other systems and they when they went into a total
> > > re-org, started working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their name
> > > to Novell and really shook things up, one of my other favorites was
> > > Corvus as they were really doing some remarkable stuff and
> > > they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up. Anybody
> > > remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers that had to load
> > everything
> > > from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks. :-)
> > >
> > > I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw one
> > > of
> >
> > > the first Novell fileservers that a "Network Engineer" was
working
> > > on and when he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a
> > > custom M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I was
> > > amazed and it always stuck with me and I've been meaning to go
> > > looking for one as I've been working with Novell since 2.12
> > > generating those good old NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
> > >
> > >
> > > Curt
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
> > > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for
> > > > > > sale/trade?
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem
> > > > > with IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've
> > > > > never fired
> >
> > > > > them up except for the hard drive module, I don't know if
they
> > work
> > > > > or not. They do not have any software with them but they seem
to
> > be
> > > > > complete and were
> > >
> > > > > working when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on
> > > > > most things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact
> > > > > me off list if you are interested.
> > > >
> > > > Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the
68000.
> > > > Did it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to
> > > > later versions of Netware?
> > > >
> > > > Sellam Ismail Vintage
> > Computer
> > > Festival
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > --
> > > > --
> > > > ----
> > > ----
> > > > International Man of Intrigue and Danger
> > > http://www.vintage.org
> > > >
> > > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at
> > > www.VintageTech.com *
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
5:34 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Marvin:
Sorry about that, I've been getting blitzed with spam for the last 2 days
so I jacked up the security on my email server a little too much and was
only permitting domains with valid MX records to send me mail, but I also
had an extra entry for doing reverseDNS lookups too, so the ruleset ran into
a small conflict, I just corrected it (or hope that I have :-) I need to
refresh my RBL's and also submit all these asses domains to the RBL's as
well to have them blocked off. Damned spammers are getting smarter each
day, they are using valid domains like yahoo.com and such and even redoing
the headers so that the from is the to so that the domain acceptance is
valid, but if the MX doesn't properly reflect the actually, then its
rejected. What a pain in the ass. Sorry... just venting.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin Johnston" <marvin(a)rain.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Hi Curt,
I tried to email you, but it was rejected with an error message
"<curt(a)atari-history.com>ory.com>: host mail.atari-history.com[216.74.138.181]
said: 501 5.7.1 <marvin(a)rain.org>rg>... Sender domain must resolve". Got
your email, and I'll get back (somehow) with you next week.
Apologies to the rest of the listserver.
Marvin
Curt Vendel wrote:
>
> Okay, then that makes more sense. Yeah, the Apple and IBM cards were
> called Corvus Transporter Cards, so I would have to assume the same on
the
> Dec Rainbows, it would be interesting to actually
find one of those
cards
> and have a look at it.
>
> Curt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:33 PM
> Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
>
> > No, the Rainbow had no built-in network ports except a serial port
which
> > we had hooked to our VAX and used it with
terminal emulation.
> >
> > Corvus had an add-in card for the Rainbow (and an ISA card for the PC)
> > that implemented their specific network protocol (I have no idea what
it
> > was, but it was not ethernet or anything
like that...)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
> > On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:12 PM
> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> >
> >
> > So.... the Rainbows, weren't they still using DECnet and LAT through
the
> > built in AUI??? Was the Corvus Disk
Server LAT Compatible or
> > something???
> > This is very interesting.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> >
> >
> > > No, we didn't use our Corvus system with VMS. DEC Rainbows (semi-PC
> > > compatible machines running MS-DOS) and PC's are what we used it
with.
> > >
> > > - Bob
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM
> > > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > >
> > >
> > > No way? Corvus worked on VMS too??? I never knew that, wow!
> > >
> > >
> > > Curt
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
> > > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:34 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > >
> > >
> > > > That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to network our DEC
Rainbows
> >
> > > > and PC's back in 1984.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
> > > > [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
> > > > On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
> > > > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sellam,
> > > >
> > > > When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be
> > > > NDS, Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom
> > > > build-to-order
> > >
> > > > hardware
> > > > and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and
printing
> > to
> > > > networked machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files
served
> > > to
> > > > all
> > > > of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so
> > > > forth) and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some
> > > > heavy-weight programmer who got their proprietary systems to
connect
> >
> > > > to PC's and other systems and they when they went into a total
> > > > re-org, started working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their
name
> > > > to Novell and really shook things
up, one of my other favorites
was
> > > > Corvus as they were really doing
some remarkable stuff and
> > > > they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up.
Anybody
> > > > remember the old 3Com 3+Open
Network Servers that had to load
> > > everything
> > > > from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks. :-)
> > > >
> > > > I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw
one
> > > > of
> > >
> > > > the first Novell fileservers that a "Network Engineer" was
working
> > > > on and when he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a
> > > > custom M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I
was
> > > > amazed and it always stuck with me
and I've been meaning to go
> > > > looking for one as I've been working with Novell since 2.12
> > > > generating those good old NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Curt
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
> > > > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems
for
> > > > > > > sale/trade?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive
subsystem
> > > > > > with IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since
I've
> > > > > > never fired
> > >
> > > > > > them up except for the hard drive module, I don't know
if they
> > > work
> > > > > > or not. They do not have any software with them but they
seem
to
> > be
> > > > > complete and were
> > >
> > > > > working when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on
> > > > > most things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact
> > > > > me off list if you are interested.
> > > >
> > > > Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the
68000.
> > > > Did it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to
> > > > later versions of Netware?
> > > >
> > > > Sellam Ismail Vintage
> > Computer
> > > Festival
> > >
------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > --
> > > > > --
> > > > > ----
> > > > ----
> > > > > International Man of Intrigue and Danger
> > > > http://www.vintage.org
> > > > >
> > > > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at
> > > > www.VintageTech.com *
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
4:33 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
If I had the foresight back then, I would have saved all that stuff when
we "grew" out of it. But when things got more sophistocated, it just
became "junk" and probably got thrown out. Who would have thought that
20 years later it might be worth something to collectors...
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:25 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Okay, then that makes more sense. Yeah, the Apple and IBM cards were
called Corvus Transporter Cards, so I would have to assume the same on
the Dec Rainbows, it would be interesting to actually find one of those
cards and have a look at it.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:33 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
stuff and
No, the Rainbow had no built-in network ports except a
serial port
which we had hooked to our VAX and used it with terminal emulation.
Corvus had an add-in card for the Rainbow (and an ISA card for the PC)
that implemented their specific network protocol (I
have no idea what
it was, but it was not ethernet or anything like that...)
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:12 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
So.... the Rainbows, weren't they still using DECnet and LAT through
the
built in AUI??? Was the Corvus Disk Server LAT
Compatible or
something???
This is very interesting.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
printing
No, we didn't use our Corvus system with VMS.
DEC Rainbows (semi-PC
compatible machines running MS-DOS) and PC's are what we used it
with.
- Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
No way? Corvus worked on VMS too??? I never knew that, wow!
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to network our DEC
> Rainbows
> > and PC's back in 1984.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
> > [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
> > On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> >
> >
> > Sellam,
> >
> > When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be
> > NDS, Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom
> > build-to-order
>
> > hardware
> > and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and to
> > networked machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files
served
to
> all
> of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so
> forth) and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some
> heavy-weight programmer who got their proprietary systems to
> connect
> > to PC's and other systems and they when they went into a total
> > re-org, started working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their
> > name to Novell and really shook things up, one of my other
> > favorites was Corvus as they were really doing some remarkable > > they got murdered by Novell as they just
couldn't keep up.
Anybody
> > remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers
that had to load
> everything
> > from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks. :-)
> >
> > I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw
> > one of
>
> > the first Novell fileservers that a "Network Engineer" was working
> > on and when he popped the case (Standard XT
Type Case) it was a
> > custom M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I
> > was amazed and it always stuck with me and I've been meaning to go
> > looking for one as I've been working
with Novell since 2.12
> > generating those good old NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
> >
> >
> > Curt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> >
> >
> > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for
> > > > > sale/trade?
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem
> > > > with IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've
> > > > never fired
>
> > > > them up except for the hard drive module, I don't know if they
> work
> > > > or not. They do not have any software with them but they seem
> > > > to
> be
> > > > complete and were
> >
> > > > working when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on
> > > > most things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact
> > > > me off list if you are
interested.
> > >
> > > Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000.
> Did it serve files for a PC network? How similar
is the NOS to
> later versions of Netware?
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage
Computer
Festival
----------------------------------------------------------------
--
--
--
----
----
International Man of Intrigue and Danger
http://www.vintage.org
* Old computing resources for business and academia at
www.VintageTech.com *
5:06 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
I also had a Corvus Omninet QBUS interface card that allowed me to attach my
11/23+ to the Corvus network disk drive... neat back then...
Bob Lafleur wrote:
That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to
network our DEC Rainbows and
PC's back in 1984.
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From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Sellam,
When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be NDS,
Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom build-to-order
hardware
and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and printing to
networked machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files served to
all
of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so forth)
and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some heavy-weight
programmer who got their proprietary systems to connect to PC's and
other systems and they when they went into a total re-org, started
working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their name to Novell and really
shook things up, one of my other favorites was Corvus as they were
really doing some remarkable stuff and
they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up. Anybody
remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers that had to load everything
from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks. :-)
I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw one of
the first Novell fileservers that a "Network Engineer" was working on
and when he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a custom
M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I was amazed and
it always stuck with me and I've been meaning to go looking for one as
I've been working with Novell since 2.12 generating those good old
NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
Curt
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From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
Festival
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
> > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for
> > sale/trade?
>
> Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem with
> IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've never fired
> them up except for the hard drive module, I don't know if they work
> or not. They do not have any software with them but they seem to be
> complete and were
working
when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on most
things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact me off
list if you are interested.
Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000. Did
it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to later
versions of Netware?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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