Hello My vaxserver 3100 has been installed with ultrix 4.5, I get alot better along with a unix than with vms, I was wondering if someone has keeped a copy of the different security updates from DEC ? I know the freeware archive at ftp.eagle.y.se , and I have installed the different interessing things from there. I graped the gnu things there and got unmbasic compiled, its not vaxbasic but is basic, actual not that slow either. Did a small inventory the other day, my commodore machines are staring to take up abit of space, had 13 64 machines of different types, and a 1541 or 1541II for every one of the. just needs to figure out a way to cluster them through IEC :) Maybe Cameron Kaiser can help here. regards Jacob Dahl Pind -- CBM, Amiga,Vintage hardware collector Email: rachael(a)rachael.dyndns.org url: http://rachael.dyndns.org fido: 2:237/38.8