If you decide to go for the one at TopLine, and want to make an offer that's lower than the listed price, mention this (and give the item # for reference). They're very business-like, and they want to move inventory, so if something's only going for $X on the open market, they will cheerfully take $X for it, even if they have it listed for $4X (unlike some eBay sellers, who persist in listing things for $4X, and won't budge - with the result that their stuff stays up forever, almost never selling). Noel