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From: "Alexandre Souza" <alexandre-listas at e-secure.com.br>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: an ADM-3A cam in tod...ay
Mac portrait
displays are presumably similarly difficult to get
replacement CRTs for, at least without realigning the yoke (I gather that
most CRTs don't like a change in orientation, although I used to run a
Sun colour display on its side a few years ago with no obvious
ill-effects)
For more conventional equipment I suspect that a swap is possible,
providing knowledge of how to tweak the old circuits with the new tube is
known.
There is a very simple way of doing that. I though you all knew that,
and didn't want to be redundant, but here we go:
- For mac portrait displays, I don't know. But I always had run tubes
on vertical on...ARCADE MACHINES! :D There is no problem on running B/W or
colour tubes on vertical, trust me.
- Tube swap is very simple. You can assume that if the neck connector
fits, it will work. There are not many different tubes around, the problem
is the yoke. On B/W tubes you just take the yoke of the fried tube off and
put that on the new. No special alignment/convergence procedure necessary.
Just line up the text on screen moving the yoke cw/ccw and you are set.
For colour tubes, there are differences, here we go.
- There are mainly three types of colour tubes: Mini-neck (the neck is
the diameter of a fat finger), Low focus and High focus. Of course, I'm
talking about inline masks. That Delta tubes (the RGB triad is a delta of
points, instead of three lines one besides other) I've never seen that
used in anything beyond televisions. If you have a monitor using a delta
mask tube, forget it! The adjustments you're going to do are too difficult
even to a profissional.
- Low focus and High focus: You can see what kind is, looking at the
tube socket or the neck end of the tube. The high focus tube has a plastic
ring inserted on the pins, with a pin isolated from all the others. You
can see the same in the socket. Low focus doesn't have that, the end of
the tube has only pins, no plastic separator.
- If you change colour tubes (talking about high focus and low focus),
usually it is just a matter of changing the tube and using the same
deflection set (yoke, convergence rings et al). E.G.: You have a monitor
like the Amiga 1084/S which uses a philips or samsung tube, Low focus
type, 15KHz yoke. Just buy any (!) television with the same
chacarteristics (low focus) and change it. Yes, you can use the same yoke.
Almost always the paramenters of the yoke are **the same**. The same
happens for VGA monitors. Usually, all vga monitors uses the same type of
yokes. YMMV, but this is the rule here. Please note: Yokes of 15 KHz
monitors and 31 KHz monitors (vga and above) are NOT intechangeable. But
the tubes ARE!
- If you need to change the tube of, as an example, an EGA monitor,
you'll not find a complete set from a television of from an old vga
monitor, you'll have to change only the tube, keeping the deflection parts
(yoke, convergence ring) and will have to do all the convergence procedure
yourself. It is boring, it is hard, it is boring. But if you have no way
to find a suitable replacement tube, there you are.
Ok, too much words, here we go for a simple list:
- If you have a B/W monitor, you can change the tube for ANY tube with
the same neck size and that fits phisically in place. Keep the yoke from
the old tube and put it on the new. You'll be only changing the glass
tube.
- If you have a COLOUR monitor, if the pixels are inline (sets of three
bars, RGB on screen), you can change for any tube of the SAME type, paying
attention if it is low focus or high focus. You can go some sizes above
and beyond. E.G: A 14" monitor can use a 17" or even a 20" tube, the
reverse is true.
- If you have a VGA or HIGHER frequency monitor, you need a tube with
yoke from a monitor of SIMILAR frequencies. Same as above
- If you have a 15 KHz monitor and only have a VGA tube, and
vice-versa, you can change THE TUBE, but will have to change the
deflection set (yoke/convergence rings) and do all the convergence
procedure yourself. Samsung manuals are great for teaching that, get the
Syncmaster III service manual and be free.
Any questions, feel free to write me
Greetings from Brazil,
Alexandre Souza
www.tabajara-labs.com.br