25 May
2009
25 May
'09
2:12 p.m.
"Fran C. Smith" <fsmith at ladylinux.com> wrote:
NOOO Actually ..
The real holy war is
VI vs EMACS :-)
Pfft. Both are for clueless newbies. The only editor is TECO. Anything
else can be implemented in TECO, if I really need it.
With a half :-)
Johnny
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26 May
26 May
7:57 a.m.
On May 25, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
"Fran C. Smith" <fsmith at
ladylinux.com> wrote:
<giggle> Do they make TECO for a Mac?
I LOVED TECO on RT11-SJ and RSX-11+. Don't have much need for it now
(no longer programming robots), but TECO rocks!
Jim
NOOO Actually .. The real holy war is
VI vs EMACS :-)
Pfft. Both are for clueless newbies. The only editor is TECO.
Anything else can be implemented in TECO, if I really need it.
With a half :-) 
8:05 a.m.
On May 26, 2009, at 7:57 AM, Jim Arnott wrote:
<giggle> Do they make TECO for a Mac?
The C implementation of TECO should build on a Mac.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
NOOO Actually .. The real holy war is
VI vs EMACS :-)
Pfft. Both are for clueless newbies. The only editor is TECO.
Anything else can be implemented in TECO, if I really need it.
With a half :-) 
8:18 a.m.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 04:57:50AM -0700, Jim Arnott wrote:
<giggle> Do they make TECO for a Mac?
I LOVED TECO on RT11-SJ and RSX-11+. Don't have much need for it now (no
longer programming robots), but TECO rocks!
Jim
A coworker still uses EDT, our boss jokingly said that we should give
him a keyboard without the numpad, just to make him stop.
Cheers,
Pontus.
8:24 a.m.
On May 26, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Lots of people "still" use EDT. I'm not sure why one should feel
compelled to stop.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
<giggle>
Do they make TECO for a Mac?
I LOVED TECO on RT11-SJ and RSX-11+. Don't have much need for it
now (no
longer programming robots), but TECO rocks!
A coworker still uses EDT, our boss jokingly said that we should give
him a keyboard without the numpad, just to make him stop.
8:38 a.m.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 08:24:47AM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote:
heh, I figured that "still uses" was the wrong phrasing to use on this
list :)
One reason to stop is that it only runs on VMS (at least I think so, and
I'm only counting modern systems here). The editor I use runs on VMS,
*nix and windows, which is nice. Still I have learned a few other
editors for systems that don't have my editor of choice installed.
/P
A coworker
still uses EDT, our boss jokingly said that we should give
him a keyboard without the numpad, just to make him stop.
Lots of people "still" use EDT. I'm not sure why one should feel
compelled to stop. 
9:01 a.m.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 02:38:16PM +0200, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 08:24:47AM -0400, Dave McGuire
wrote:
heh, I figured that "still uses" was the wrong phrasing to use on this
list :)
One reason to stop is that it only runs on VMS (at least I think so, and
I'm only counting modern systems here). The editor I use runs on VMS,
*nix and windows, which is nice. Still I have learned a few other
editors for systems that don't have my editor of choice installed.
You could always use emacs and edt-emulation-on
- Diane
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A
coworker still uses EDT, our boss jokingly said that we should give
him a keyboard without the numpad, just to make him stop.
Lots of people "still" use EDT. I'm not sure why one should feel
compelled to stop. 
9:15 a.m.
One reason to
stop is that it only runs on VMS (at least I think so, and
I'm only counting modern systems here). The editor I use runs on VMS,
*nix and windows, which is nice. Still I have learned a few other
editors for systems that don't have my editor of choice installed.
You could always use emacs and edt-emulation-on
9:33 a.m.
On May 26, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
heh, I figured that "still uses" was the wrong phrasing to use on this
list :)
Well, being that it's a current product and all.. ;)
A coworker still uses EDT, our boss jokingly said that
we should
give
him a keyboard without the numpad, just to make him stop.
Lots of people "still" use EDT. I'm not sure why one should feel
compelled to stop. One reason to stop is that it only runs on VMS (at
least I think
so, and
I'm only counting modern systems here).
It does. I guess many people (no accusing you) assume that VMS is
somehow obsolete or something.
The editor I use runs on VMS,
*nix and windows, which is nice. Still I have learned a few other
editors for systems that don't have my editor of choice installed.
Cross-platform editor portability is wonderful. I'd be surprised
if there weren't at least one decent EDT clone for the UNIX world.
The EDT emulation modes in emacs are, well, not so impressive.
What editor do you use? I think there's a very short list that
run across all three platforms that you mentioned.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
10:27 a.m.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:33:54AM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote:
It does. I guess many people (no accusing you) assume that VMS is
somehow obsolete or something.
I use it at work at least weekly :)
What editor do you use? I think there's a very
short list that run
across all three platforms that you mentioned.
emacs, there I've said it, now you know my religion :D
(emacs on VMS in interesting, but functional)
/P
3:07 p.m.
On May 26, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Like I said, not accusing you.
There you go. Emacs is my editor (for programming anyway) but not
my religion.
It does. I
guess many people (no accusing you) assume that VMS is
somehow obsolete or something.
I use it at work at least weekly :) What editor
do you use? I think there's a very short list that run
across all three platforms that you mentioned.
emacs, there I've said it, now you know my religion :D (emacs on VMS in interesting, but functional)
Agree 100%.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
11:57 a.m.
At 2:38 PM +0200 5/26/09, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
One reason to stop is that it only runs on VMS (at
least I think so, and
I'm only counting modern systems here). The editor I use runs on VMS,
*nix and windows, which is nice. Still I have learned a few other
editors for systems that don't have my editor of choice installed.
In spite of what HP might want people to believe, VMS is not dead,
and is a modern OS. I'm sure I'm not the only one on this list that
uses and actively develops for VMS.
Personally I use a whole mess of editors depending on what platform
I'm on. Here are the primary ones. The main reason I use xemacs is
for the context colouring, while joe will now do that, I find xemacs
is better for writing software and having several files open.
Context colouring is the same reason why I use nedit on OpenVMS.
OpenVMS - EDT, nedit
UNIX - joe, xemacs
Mac OS X - SubEthaEdit, xemacs
Windows - notepad, Visual Studio
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27 May
27 May
9:31 p.m.
On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Dave McGuire wrote:
On May 26, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Lots of people "still" use EDT. I'm not sure why one should feel
compelled to stop.
Because it's not vim? :)
Pat
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<giggle> Do they make TECO for a Mac?
I LOVED TECO on RT11-SJ and RSX-11+. Don't have much need for it
now (no
longer programming robots), but TECO rocks!
A coworker still uses EDT, our boss jokingly said that we should
give him a keyboard without the numpad, just to make him stop.
10:44 p.m.
On May 27, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
Lots of people "still" use EDT. I'm not sure why one should feel
compelled to stop.
Because it's not vim? :)
*BOOM!* (<-- head explodes)
:)
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
<giggle>
Do they make TECO for a Mac?
I LOVED TECO on RT11-SJ and RSX-11+. Don't have much need for it
now (no
longer programming robots), but TECO rocks!
A coworker still uses EDT, our boss jokingly said that we should
give him a keyboard without the numpad, just to make him stop. 
26 May
26 May
10 a.m.
>> NOOO Actually .. The real holy war is
>> VI vs EMACS :-)
>
> Pfft. Both are for clueless newbies. The only editor is TECO.
Of course vi is functionally similar to TECO, with the same "[count] command
[argument ESC]" syntax; merely a few of the command names are different (It's
those emacs guys that strayed far from the true path). Plus you get regular
expressions.
With a half
:-)
<giggle> Do they make TECO for a Mac?
11:15 a.m.
<giggle>
Do they make TECO for a Mac?
$ port install teco 
27 May
27 May
10:29 p.m.
Rumor has it that Cameron Kaiser may have mentioned these words:
Cheater. I want to see it on OS 9 ;-)
Just use TS-Edit then!
You did mean the _real_ OS-9, right? ;-)
{ Ducks & Runs! }
Laterz,
"Merch"
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zmerch at 30below.com. |
SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers
<giggle> Do they make TECO for a Mac?
$ port install teco
11:45 p.m.
<giggle>
Do they make TECO for a Mac?
$ port install teco
26 May
26 May
8:14 p.m.
On May 26, 2009, at 7:00 AM, schoedel at kw.igs.net wrote:
$ port install teco
---> Fetching TECO
OMG, they really do have TECO for Mac!
<http://almy.us/teco.html>
"TECO for Mac OS X. Well, I must admit that nobody has asked for this,
but here it is anyway. It's in a gzipped tar archive. A very teletype
oriented ASCII text editor for a very GUI-based system, one for which
most users never use a command line, might seem a bit strange. In any
case, I feel that anyone who can extract the executable and put in in
the path is qualified to use it. This archive contains all
documentation as well as sources which you can recompile, from the
command line, using Apple Xcode."
Loading it now!
Jim
>> NOOO
Actually .. The real holy war is
>> VI vs EMACS :-)
>
> Pfft. Both are for clueless newbies. The only editor is TECO.
Of course vi is functionally similar to TECO, with the same "[count]
command
[argument ESC]" syntax; merely a few of the command names are
different (It's
those emacs guys that strayed far from the true path). Plus you get
regular
expressions.
With a
half :-)
<giggle> Do they make TECO for a Mac? 
27 May
27 May
11:55 a.m.
New subject: Editors
Jim Arnott wrote:
On May 25, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Johnny Billquist
wrote:
"Fran
C. Smith" <fsmith at ladylinux.com> wrote:
NOOO Actually .. The real holy war is
VI vs EMACS :-)
Pfft. Both are for clueless newbies. The only editor is TECO.
Anything else can be implemented in TECO, if I really need it.
With a half :-) 
28 May
28 May
11:07 a.m.
New subject: Editors
Johnny Billquist wrote:
One word. XEDIT.
Peace... Sridhar
NOOO Actually
..
The real holy war is
VI vs EMACS :-)
Pfft. Both are for clueless newbies. The only editor is TECO. Anything
else can be implemented in TECO, if I really need it.
With a half :-)
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