22 Feb
2018
22 Feb
'18
4:58 a.m.
Hi folks,
I recently discovered a complete Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay. It
is a charity auction, ending tomorrow.
I am the high bidder (hachti, 600-some points) and BEG YOU ALL NOT TO
BID on it!
I already entered a crazy high bid anyway bid so please don't bid on it.
I am one of the very very very few people who have an actual DDP-516
machine and can really use this as a spare for a real machine.
Again, PLEASE refrain from bidding up this item!
If you are the owner of a "headless" machine who is in need for the
front panel: please contact me, so we can avoid an explosion on Ebay.
Thank you very much.
Kind regards
Philipp
22 Feb
22 Feb
7:18 a.m.
I have been watching this too, yes. Fortunately I already have a
practically identical console (link below). All I have so far is the
console and a core module. I am looking for the rest of the computer if
anyone has one...
http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655
Bill
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:58 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi folks,
I recently discovered a complete Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay. It is
a charity auction, ending tomorrow.
I am the high bidder (hachti, 600-some points) and BEG YOU ALL NOT TO BID
on it!
I already entered a crazy high bid anyway bid so please don't bid on it.
I am one of the very very very few people who have an actual DDP-516
machine and can really use this as a spare for a real machine.
Again, PLEASE refrain from bidding up this item!
If you are the owner of a "headless" machine who is in need for the front
panel: please contact me, so we can avoid an explosion on Ebay.
Thank you very much.
Kind regards
Philipp
8 a.m.
On 22.02.2018 16:18, Bill Degnan wrote:
All I have so far is the
console and a core module.? ?I am looking for the rest of the computer
if anyone has one...
Ah, good to know that there is a spare core stack around :-P
I remember - having already commented on it...
The front panel is quite dump. Everything is handled in the CPU and the PSU.
BTW you know that the schematics of the DDP-516 can be found on bitsavers?
Kind regards
Philipp
8:26 a.m.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 22.02.2018 16:18, Bill Degnan wrote:
I remember - having already commented on
it...
The front panel is quite dump. Everything is handled in the CPU and the
PSU.
BTW you know that the schematics of the DDP-516 can be found on bitsavers?
Kind regards
Philipp
Yes, just commenting to the group..for now I can simH Honeywell. I would
love to get the front panel running with a simH, using the schematics to
determine what lights should flash..
Bill
All I have so far is the
console and a core module. I am looking for the rest of the computer if
anyone has one...
Ah, good to know that there is a spare core stack around :-P
http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655
11:38 a.m.
some panel hoader could drive this thru the roof.... I ran into someine this year with
no interest really in the computers but like the panels for art.... with deep pockets.
which makes them even scarier.....ed# www.smecc.org
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On Thursday, February 22, 2018 Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk <cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 22.02.2018 16:18, Bill Degnan wrote:
All I have so far is the
console and a core module.? ?I am looking for the rest of the computer
if anyone has one...
Ah, good to know that there is a spare core stack around :-P
I remember - having already commented on it...
The front panel is quite dump. Everything is handled in the CPU and the PSU.
BTW you know that the schematics of the DDP-516 can be found on bitsavers?
Kind regards
Philipp
11:51 a.m.
On Thursday, February 22, 2018 Philipp Hachtmann via
cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org
wrote:
On 22.02.2018 16:18, Bill Degnan wrote:
All I have so far is the
console and a core module. I am looking for the rest of the computer
if anyone has one...
Ah, good to know that there is a spare core stack around :-P
I remember - having already
commented on it...
The front panel is quite dump. Everything is handled in the CPU and the
PSU.
BTW you know that the schematics of the DDP-516 can be found on bitsavers?
Kind regards
Philipp
wrote:
some panel hoader could drive this thru the roof....
I ran into someine
this year with no interest really in the computers but like the panels for
art.... with deep pockets. which makes them even scarier.....ed#
www.smecc.org
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
I can accept someone keeping the front panel and dumping the computer more
so than when on strips a keyboard from the terminal. Two reasons - One
because with the front panel one can build something underneath to replace
the original computer. Second - The computer may simply be too big to keep
around
But I am sure there is a Fridays restaurant somewhere in the USA with a
UNIVAC front panel or something sad like that on the wall.
Bill
1:29 p.m.
A library near me has art work facade about 20 feet tall with the castings of old radios,
tv's and computers. Some of these I'd have liked to have had. I doubt any were
saved after making the original casting.
Dwight
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From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> on behalf of Bill Degnan via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:51:35 AM
To: Ed Sharpe; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
On Thursday, February 22, 2018 Philipp Hachtmann via
cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org
wrote:
On 22.02.2018 16:18, Bill Degnan wrote:
All I have so far is the
console and a core module. I am looking for the rest of the computer
if anyone has one...
Ah, good to know that there is a spare core stack around :-P
I remember - having already
commented on it...
The front panel is quite dump. Everything is handled in the CPU and the
PSU.
BTW you know that the schematics of the DDP-516 can be found on bitsavers?
Kind regards
Philipp
wrote:
some panel hoader could drive this thru the roof....
I ran into someine
this year with no interest really in the computers but like the panels for
art.... with deep pockets. which makes them even scarier.....ed#
www.smecc.org<http://www.smecc.org>
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
I can accept someone keeping the front panel and dumping the computer more
so than when on strips a keyboard from the terminal. Two reasons - One
because with the front panel one can build something underneath to replace
the original computer. Second - The computer may simply be too big to keep
around
But I am sure there is a Fridays restaurant somewhere in the USA with a
UNIVAC front panel or something sad like that on the wall.
Bill
23 Feb
23 Feb
6:22 a.m.
On 22.02.2018 20:51, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
I can accept someone keeping the front panel and
dumping the computer more
so than when on strips a keyboard from the terminal.
Oh, what!?! I have a totally different opinion on that :-)
Two reasons - One
because with the front panel one can build something underneath to replace
the original computer.
With the stripped keyboard one can build something underneath to replace
the original terminal as well. Even easier than the computer.
Second - The computer may simply be too big to keep
around
There is no vintage computer in existence that is too big to keep.
There are only vintage computers which are too big for some
collectors/persons/institutions/museums/whatever.
But in my opinion it is never ok to scrap a big system and keep the
front panel. Not in the 21st century.
Those big irons are getting more and more rare. And there are people and
institutions which can mobilise amounts of power, money, will, knowledge
and enthusiasm that cannot even be imagined by the common sort of people
who scrap, discard and destroy the real interesting machines. Still today.
These dangerous people appear in the form of managers, engineers,
professors, <very intelligent whatever scientist>, former users of the
systems or even the service technician who took care for the machine for
years. And, the newest addition to that creepy army of educated morons:
Stupid collectors and replica builders.
I know EXACTLY what I am talking about. I have seen things and felt the
pain.
So again: There is NO NO NO reason to strip a frontpanel from a machine.
It's always wrong. No exception. It's just plain wrong.
Kind regards
Philipp
8:25 a.m.
On 2/23/18 6:22 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote:
With the stripped keyboard one can build something
underneath to replace the original terminal as well.
Too bad that isn't what keyboard collectors do with them.
It is good to hear that if a Lisp Machine keyboard gets in the hands of someone who
appreciates
them for what they are that they get attached to an emulator and aren't raped to be a
L33T D00D's
gaming PC keyboard.
7:42 p.m.
so did u get it?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 2/23/18 6:22 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote:
With the stripped keyboard one can build
something underneath to replace
the original terminal as well.
Too bad that isn't what keyboard collectors do with them.
It is good to hear that if a Lisp Machine keyboard gets in the hands of
someone who appreciates
them for what they are that they get attached to an emulator and aren't
raped to be a L33T D00D's
gaming PC keyboard.
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