Chris, Another drive made for the C-64 was the Indus GT drive (more well known among Atari 8-bit users). It's cool looking-- all black with a smoked plexiglass cover and two 7 segment LED's showing what track the drive was using or the most recent error code. And another was something like the "Excelerator Pro", which has a cheap look and feel to it, though it may well be an OK drive. --Michael Passer mwp(a)acm.org Commodore and as