<You've got two tracks mixed up, I think. True, the Apple II was quite <plentiful in 80, but not in businesses the way it was in 82-83. I even ha <several of them with people to man them as well. I hated the Apple but <loved the 6502. In the meantime, I noted that the RS Model 1 was a piece o <junk, and, in fact, so much of one that I never bought one, even for <experimentation, and I had nearly every other sort of box around the shop. OK, maybe where you were that was true. However despite the TRS80s shortfalls (most corrected with mods or outside hardware) I knew of businesses using them, and I may add same for the apple II. <The model 1 was quite common, but the model 1 was in too many pieces to be <of much interest to most folks. What's more, it was pretty weak-kneed. Th <model 3 held out hope, though that was later dashed when the model 3 turne <out to be not much better. My slant was the M1 was close but people wanted something more "one box". The M3 was never more than a blip on the screen because when it hit the streets there were plenty more choices and all of them deemed (if only subjectively) better. In the business worlds in NY and eastern PA S100 crates were the rule as most were seen as the business strength machines and the apple/trs80 as toys. This was by people that didn't care what cpu only that it ran! <The initial impact of the PC was to get people to stop buying non-PC's for <their businesses. They were extremely costly at first, and didn't have a <few serious problems worked out. People had to mortgage their houses to bu <one (a basic PC on the gray-market cost nearly $2k). Not really. If you were invested in apple then PC was a non-player as nothing was compatable and you lost your investement going over. For the z80 crowd (TRS and S100 crates) that was slightly less a concern but PCs needed to get up to speed with applications first. Keep in mind when the PC was introduced the only 8086 stuff out there was ISIS based and mostly as development tools. It was the spread sheets and graphic programs that caused the great sucking sound of people going PC but, that would take more time than your indicating. Yes, I remember getting a bonus check becuase of the PC in 82. IT wasn't for implementing as a useful system it was for FIXing the design. Seems one of the design bugs was it would only run intel chipsets. As to the cost of a PC... equipped as a useful machine that could run production it was far from $2k! Allison