7 Sep
2001
7 Sep
'01
5:57 p.m.
I got a great bunch of artifacts recently from an ex-Digit (DEC Employee)
who was finally not going to use his VAX for anything else any more.
These included:
A set a PAKs that rivals the Hobbyist offering
and exceeds it in that it has a PL/I and APL PAK.
Several RRD40 caddys and a couple of the SCSI version
of the RRD40 (I'm on the look out for the non-SCSI
version, will trade one for one!)
A VAXServer 3100/M48 (yet another one I didn't have
yet.) with all the option cards (multi-serial, DMF32,
etc)
A bunch of manuals, including the VT103 users guide
and a bunch of VAX 11/730 manuals (including the CPU
technical manual!)
An Ultrix-32 Condist for VAX (v3.0)
Three VMS Condists (5.2, 6.0, and 6.1)
Cables for various things.
Some RTL replacement parts for the PDP-5 !!!!
Bits of ephemera from the DEC hey day (VAX brochures,
DECUS disks, etc)
Some more docs
Available for trade:
TU58 Technical Manual
TU58 User's Guide
RL02 User's Guide
RL01/RL02 manual
Some DECConnect stuff and a crimping tool with about
20 MMJ "heads"
Lots of little detail parts that are so hard to come by when you need them.
--Chuck
8 Sep
8 Sep
12:27 a.m.
Chuck McManis wrote:
I got a great bunch of artifacts recently from an
ex-Digit (DEC Employee)
who was finally not going to use his VAX for anything else any more.
Some more docs
Available for trade:
TU58 Technical Manual
TU58 User's Guide
Jerome Fine replies:
I could probably use the TU58 manuals, however, I would rather see them
sent to someone who will scan them and make them available to everyone.
Since I have only RT-11/PDP-11 hardware stuff, what might help? What
about a set of out of print RT-11 DOCs? As far as I know, these are
allowed to be reproduced since they are no longer available? Can these be
scanned as well?
Also, I hope to soon receive an 11/73 manual? Could this also be scanned?
I realize that it is great to have our own copies of these manuals, but I am
now hoping that they can all be scanned and thereby preserved before that
is no longer possible.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
1:25 a.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
I have a pretty rough looking Nec Multisync II monitor in my car, hope it
works, but more so hope its one of the "good" monitors to have the list has
talked about in the past, is it?
3:42 a.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
I have a pretty rough looking Nec Multisync II monitor
in my car, hope it
works, but more so hope its one of the "good" monitors to have the list has
talked about in the past, is it?
Mike,
It's full specs can be found here:
http://support.necmitsubishi.com/nec/original/ms2/index.htm
One of the nice things about it is that it will allow both
analog and TTL inputs as well as sync low enough to be used with the
Amiga native graphics modes. It will also sync to some of the
oddball TTL stuff such as the TRS-80 Model 2000's graphics adapter.
It's a pretty flexible monitor.
Jeff
--
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.cchaven.com
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
5:42 a.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 06:25:36 -0700, Mike Ford wrote:
#I have a pretty rough looking Nec Multisync II monitor in my car, hope it
#works, but more so hope its one of the "good" monitors to have the list has
#talked about in the past, is it?
#
Yes, it can do analog and digital, and sync down to 15 Hz, which means it can function
with oddball RGB
outputs such as the Tandy Color Computer 3 and the Commodore Amiga.
I use one for CGA (digital) mode with an IBM PC-XT 286, it has a very nice picture.
Louis
14 Sep
14 Sep
4:14 p.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
Mike Ford skrev:
I have a pretty rough looking Nec Multisync II monitor
in my car, hope it
works, but more so hope its one of the "good" monitors to have the list has
talked about in the past, is it?
It certainly is. It's a multisync which will sync down to 15KHz (same as TV
modes and "RGB" monitors) analogue as well as digital.
Watch out for its big brother, the 3D.
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
11:59 p.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
I had one of these on my desk in '87 or so. They were shipped with an adapter
to the HD DE15 connector now common on VGA displays, but were actually sold into
the mature EGA market. They're certainly capable of 640x480, which is the
resolution at which I used the thing, and they did that rather well. I've heard
they're capable of 1Kx768 in interlaced mode, like the 3D. IIRC, 800x600 didn't
work, but I don't remember why. It could have been the adapter I used. Back
then you couldn't get much help with sync polarity.
I do recall that touching either of the screws at the upper right and left side
while allowing my then-massive paunch to contact the front of the screen, even
through a shirt and necktie, would yield a significant shock, by the way, so
beware!
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Iggy Drougge" <optimus(a)canit.se>
To: "Mike Ford" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Nec Multisync II monitor
Mike Ford skrev:
I have a pretty rough looking Nec Multisync II
monitor in my car, hope it
works, but more so hope its one of the "good" monitors to have the list has
talked about in the past, is it?
It certainly is. It's a multisync which will sync down to 15KHz (same as TV
modes and "RGB" monitors) analogue as well as digital.
Watch out for its big brother, the 3D.
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
15 Sep
15 Sep
3:14 p.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
I have a pretty
rough looking Nec Multisync II monitor in my car, hope it
works, but more so hope its one of the "good" monitors to have the list has
talked about in the past, is it?
It certainly is. It's a multisync which will sync down to 15KHz (same as TV
modes and "RGB" monitors) analogue as well as digital.
Watch out for its big brother, the 3D.
16 Sep
16 Sep
2:29 a.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
If you get a methyl-methacrylate cement for polycarbonates, etc, and use it to
patch the gash, then polish it with steel wool (since the plastic's too soft for
sanding) you might be able to make the thing look tolerable. I frequently use
monitors like this to give away along with donated computers, and don't like
them to look TOO terrible, hence I've found a few ways to get past some of the
common cosmetic problems. They are made of remarkably soft plastic that's easy
to damage.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ford" <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Nec Multisync II monitor
Thats what one of my other friends said, NEC II good, 3D better. I haven't
even tested this one for working yet, and it is ROUGH from poor handling
(ie gash in the case side). Still if it works I'll keep it for bench use,
or wait til I find a dead one in a nicer case.
I have a pretty rough looking Nec Multisync II monitor
in my car, hope it
works, but more so hope its one of the "good" monitors to have the list has
talked about in the past, is it?
It certainly is. It's a multisync which will sync down to 15KHz (same as TV
modes and "RGB" monitors) analogue as well as digital.
Watch out for its big brother, the 3D.
7:26 a.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
If you get a methyl-methacrylate cement for
polycarbonates, etc, and use it to
patch the gash, then polish it with steel wool (since the plastic's too
soft for
sanding) you might be able to make the thing look tolerable. I frequently use
monitors like this to give away along with donated computers, and don't like
them to look TOO terrible, hence I've found a few ways to get past some of the
common cosmetic problems. They are made of remarkably soft plastic that's
easy
to damage.
Dick
I'm more of a duct tape kinda guy, but thats for items I only will be
personally using.
8:03 a.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
I find that things that I use repeatedly, whether in combination with test
equipment or with computers, seem to perform more satisfactorily if I take the
trouble to fabricate and maintain them, including their packaging, such that I
can adjust my mentality to one of "this is a tool" rather than "this is
something I reubed up" or "this is the product of many compromises" so that
I
can focus on what I'm doing without the distraction, cosmetic or otherwise,
associated with the realities of those compromises.
Maybe it's not like that for you, but I really don't enjoy explaining to someone
why a circuit is still just a free-floating wire-wrap board haning on a string
tied to a power supply, even if it's only been used twice in the decade since it
was made, and even if it works perfectly every time.
I'm not a typical "appearance-over-substance" kind of guy, but I do find it
helps with my own shop-made fixtures, etc, that they're pacakged so they can be
used conveniently, and so they don't require any special handling to protect
them.
At a minimum, I'd be inclined to apply the duct-tape from the inside of the
plastic enclosure. Even minor blemishes have their effect, so minimizing it is
certainly worth a LITTLE trouble.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ford" <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Nec Multisync II monitor
>If you get a methyl-methacrylate cement for
polycarbonates, etc, and use it
to
>patch the gash, then polish it with steel wool
(since the plastic's too
>soft for
>sanding) you might be able to make the thing look tolerable. I frequently
use
>monitors like this to give away along with donated
computers, and don't like
>them to look TOO terrible, hence I've found a few ways to get past some of
the
common cosmetic
problems. They are made of remarkably soft plastic that's
easy
to damage.
Dick
I'm more of a duct tape kinda guy, but thats for items I only will be
personally using.
2:38 p.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
I find that things that I use repeatedly, whether in
combination with test
equipment or with computers, seem to perform more satisfactorily if I take the
trouble to fabricate and maintain them, including their packaging, such that I
can adjust my mentality to one of "this is a tool" rather than "this is
something I reubed up" or "this is the product of many compromises" so that
I
can focus on what I'm doing without the distraction, cosmetic or otherwise,
associated with the realities of those compromises.
Yipes, next you will be telling me you wash your car.
I was in a scrap yard the other day with maybe 75 pallets of monitors, many
I suspect working still, just a bit small/old/etc.. With that sort of
supply, I am not going to spend a lot of time on a old monitor unless it is
special and with a future. This old Nec multisync II will NEVER be in nice
condition. My view is pretty strictly does this opening cause a hazard, if
so apply duct tape or toss.
11:30 a.m.
New subject: Nec Multisync II monitor
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Mike Ford wrote:
Thats what one of my other friends said, NEC II good, 3D better. I haven't
even tested this one for working yet, and it is ROUGH from poor handling
(ie gash in the case side). Still if it works I'll keep it for bench use,
or wait til I find a dead one in a nicer case.
There is always BONDO and a spray can.
- don
I have a pretty rough looking Nec Multisync II monitor
in my car, hope it
works, but more so hope its one of the "good" monitors to have the list has
talked about in the past, is it?
It certainly is. It's a multisync which will sync down to 15KHz (same as TV
modes and "RGB" monitors) analogue as well as digital.
Watch out for its big brother, the 3D.
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