21 Jan
2003
21 Jan
'03
11:42 a.m.
I'm dusting off this old AXPpci33 motherboard of mine and ran into a few
issues... I'm attempting to upgrade the firmware and I have the file
from the Digital/Compaq/HP web site (Dec 2002 version),
but the
instructions don't match my situation. I don't have the ability to
cobble up a boot floppy with OpenVMS (my DEC 4000 has no RX33 or
equivalent), I don't seem to have a compatible network card to BOOTP
it in, and the FAT floppy technique doesn't work with the firmware
I have in there now.
So... does anyone know where I can find a reference to which network
cards are supported for network boot? I have all the common cards
like NE2000s, 3C509s, 8013s, etc., and a few PCI cards. I even have
a card in there now with a DEC 21143-PA chip, but the ROMs don't seem
to like it. Alternatively, in a similar vein to what someone else
recently requested for their Multia, can someone on the list make a
raw disk image I can "dd" onto a blank floppy? The Unix technique
on the HP webpage requires a Digital Unix binary program to convert
the firmare utility file to some other format and I can't do it from
Linux or Solaris.
Thanks,
-ethan
P.S. - I also can't find any reference to the supported memory
configurations of the AXPpci33 board - I have some parity 16MB
SIMMs, giving me 64MB, but I'd like to use some of these parity
64MB SIMMs I have here from AIR motherboards (formerly CompuServe
"CompuHosts"). Got a set of 4 ready to go, but it seems that few
boards ever supported 64MB 72-pin memory. :-(
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21 Jan
21 Jan
12:22 p.m.
I don't have the ability to cobble up a boot
floppy with
OpenVMS (my DEC 4000 has no RX33 or equivalent), I don't seem
to have a compatible network card to BOOTP it in, and the FAT
An RX33 is a 5-1/4" disk isn't it - in which case you
are on your own :-)
So... does anyone know where I can find a reference to
which
network cards are supported for network boot? I have all the
My guess would be a DEC one, e.g. a DE500, and preferably not
one that's too late (I cannot remember which of the 3 or 4
DE500-?? were the later ones). 21143 was the last gen of DEC
PCI ethernet chip wasn't it? If so look for almost anything with
a 21141 (IIRC). It probably does not even have to be a DEC card
since almost all the machine will see will be the chip
on the PCI bus.
chip, but the ROMs don't seem to like it.
Alternatively, in
a similar vein to what someone else recently requested for
their Multia, can someone on the list make a raw disk image I
can "dd" onto a blank floppy? The Unix technique on the HP
I have not heard back as to whether the Multia floppy image
was a success, but I'll happily have another go. Point me
at where the image you want is (otherwise I'm bound
to pick the wrong one) and I'll see if I can build a
floppy using OpenVMS on a VAX and then dd to produce
an image I can email to you.
Antonio
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23 Jan
23 Jan
5:44 p.m.
Antonio Carlini (arcarlini(a)iee.org) wrote :
I have not heard back as to whether the Multia floppy
image
was a success, but I'll happily have another go. Point me
at where the image you want is (otherwise I'm bound
to pick the wrong one) and I'll see if I can build a
floppy using OpenVMS on a VAX and then dd to produce
an image I can email to you.
It was definitely a successful step, however it is not usable for
AXPpci. Just go to ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive,
find your model name and go on.
Update floppy is just a FAT-formatted floppy with srm.exe and/or arc.exe
and an update script. You can make yourself easily with a notebook.
Cheers,
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6:08 p.m.
It was definitely a successful step, however it is not
usable for
AXPpci. Just go to ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive,
find your model name and go on.
Update floppy is just a FAT-formatted floppy with srm.exe and/or arc.exe
and an update script. You can make yourself easily with a notebook.
I found the firmware update floppy I generated for my AXPpci33...
If the person who needs it will contact me, I'll make take an
image of it and make it available...
Megan
24 Jan
24 Jan
1:51 p.m.
--- Megan <mbg(a)theworld.com> wrote:
>It was definitely a successful step, however it is not usable for
>AXPpci. Just go to ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive,
>find your model name and go on.
>
>Update floppy is just a FAT-formatted floppy with srm.exe and/or arc.exe
>and an update script. You can make yourself easily with a notebook.
That was not useful in my particular circumstances... I had to locate
the mkboot.exe program under cover of a different model off of the
aforementioned ftp site, and mkboot the AXPpci33 firmware file to
the floppy. Booting _that_ got me the results I was after.
I found the firmware update floppy I generated for my
AXPpci33...
If the person who needs it will contact me, I'll make take an
image of it and make it available...
If you mean me, my AXPpci33 upgrade was successful (but just in case
I've missed something, what version did you find?) If you mean someone
else, then I'll just go back to minding my own business.
Thanks,
-ethan
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21 Jan
21 Jan
1:49 p.m.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
I'm dusting off this old AXPpci33 motherboard of
mine and ran into a few
issues... I'm attempting to upgrade the firmware and I have the file
from the Digital/Compaq/HP web site (Dec 2002 version), but the
instructions don't match my situation. I don't have the ability to
cobble up a boot floppy with OpenVMS (my DEC 4000 has no RX33 or
equivalent), I don't seem to have a compatible network card to BOOTP
it in, and the FAT floppy technique doesn't work with the firmware
I have in there now.
So... does anyone know where I can find a reference to which network
cards are supported for network boot? I have all the common cards
like NE2000s, 3C509s, 8013s, etc., and a few PCI cards. I even have
a card in there now with a DEC 21143-PA chip, but the ROMs don't seem
to like it. Alternatively, in a similar vein to what someone else
recently requested for their Multia, can someone on the list make a
raw disk image I can "dd" onto a blank floppy? The Unix technique
on the HP webpage requires a Digital Unix binary program to convert
the firmare utility file to some other format and I can't do it from
Linux or Solaris.
Thanks,
-ethan
P.S. - I also can't find any reference to the supported memory
configurations of the AXPpci33 board - I have some parity 16MB
SIMMs, giving me 64MB, but I'd like to use some of these parity
64MB SIMMs I have here from AIR motherboards (formerly CompuServe
"CompuHosts"). Got a set of 4 ready to go, but it seems that few
boards ever supported 64MB 72-pin memory. :-(
I'm using 4 * 32MB simms in my machine, and I seem to recall that the
user's guide referred to a maximum supported memory (under DEC Unix) of
512MB. Of course, the maximum supported for that other, not thoroughly
debugged, OS was only! 256MB... (bash mode off ;-}) )
If I find the manual , I'll look it up... I also have a pdf somewhere...
26 Jan
26 Jan
3:30 p.m.
Stan Pietkiewicz wrote:
Ethan Dicks wrote:
<<snip>>
I'm using 4 * 32MB simms in my machine, and I seem to recall that the
user's guide referred to a maximum supported memory (under DEC Unix) of
512MB. Of course, the maximum supported for that other, not thoroughly
debugged, OS was only! 256MB... (bash mode off ;-}) )
If I find the manual , I'll look it up... I also have a pdf somewhere...
I found the .pdf OEM design guide.... The maximum tested memory is 4 *
64MB SIMMS for a total of 256MB. The NT / Unix differences were in the
minimum recommended: 16 MB for NT, and 32 MB for Digital Unix.
29 Jan
29 Jan
4:15 a.m.
--- Stan Pietkiewicz <pietstan(a)rogers.com> wrote:
I found the .pdf OEM design guide.... The maximum
tested memory is 4 *
64MB SIMMS for a total of 256MB. The NT / Unix differences were in the
minimum recommended: 16 MB for NT, and 32 MB for Digital Unix.
Hmm... I have located a total of 4 x 32MB parity SIMMs and I'm at 128MB
at the moment. My experiments with 64MB SIMMs have been less successful.
I have two flavors - a pair of "Simple Technology" SIMMs with 36 16Mbit
chips and nothing else, and several pairs of SIMMs with 36 16MBit chips
and a single logic IC per side. All "work", but are recognized at
16Mbytes, not 64MBytes.
These 64MByte SIMMs were all out of "CompuHosts" - the 32-bit servers
that were in use at CompuServe from about 1994 through 2000. Also
called "silver bullets", they are in custom enclosures with beefy,
non-commodity power supplies, and sit two-to-a-shelf, side-by-side in
a *24"* rack (not 19"). Got a couple of shelves, but no racks. Anyway,
these SIMMs work in AIR-brand PC motherboards (single 486, single and
dual Pentium) and just about nothing else that I've found. Seems that
few machines added support for 16Mbit chips in their memory controllers.
Any clues as to how many varieties of 64MByte 72-pin SIMMs are out there?
-ethan
21 Jan
21 Jan
2:15 p.m.
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Ethan Dicks wrote:
So... does anyone know where I can find a reference to which network
cards are supported for network boot? I have all the common cards
like NE2000s, 3C509s, 8013s, etc., and a few PCI cards. I even have
a card in there now with a DEC 21143-PA chip, but the ROMs don't seem
to like it. Alternatively, in a similar vein to what someone else
recently requested for their Multia, can someone on the list make a
raw disk image I can "dd" onto a blank floppy? The Unix technique
on the HP webpage requires a Digital Unix binary program to convert
the firmare utility file to some other format and I can't do it from
Linux or Solaris.
I have a PCI 10mbit card I'll loan you... it's a 21042, IIRC, but it
came out of an Aspen Alpine, and oughta netboot on any DEC board.
Or, fact is, installing Tru64 on the PWS is one of the "if I ever get
home" priority projects. If nobody makes you a dd image in two weeks,
remind me.
Doc
22 Jan
22 Jan
4:17 a.m.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
I'm dusting off this old AXPpci33 motherboard of mine and ran into a few
issues... I'm attempting to upgrade the firmware and I have the file
from the Digital/Compaq/HP web site (Dec 2002 version), but the
instructions don't match my situation..
I'm pretty sure I successfully used RAWRITE under Windows when I
created the disks for my Multia and AXPpci33....
P.S. - I also can't find any reference to the
supported memory
configurations of the AXPpci33 board - I have some parity 16MB
SIMMs, giving me 64MB, but I'd like to use some of these parity
64MB SIMMs I have here from AIR motherboards (formerly CompuServe
"CompuHosts"). Got a set of 4 ready to go, but it seems that few
boards ever supported 64MB 72-pin memory. :-(
IIRC, the AXPpci33 only takes up to 128 MB RAM, 4 32MB sticks...
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