29 Mar
1999
29 Mar
'99
4:43 a.m.
Here is a dumb question...
Are European floor tiles for computer rooms 2 feet square, like those
found in the U.S., or are they smaller?
I am trying to find out how big the ETA-10P Pipers are, and I have picture
that has a floor tile as a reference. The image,
http://www.tno.nl/instit/fel/museum/computer/eta10p.jpg,
is rather funny looking, as the people make the box look small.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
29 Mar
29 Mar
9:52 a.m.
Here is a dumb question...
Are European floor tiles for computer rooms 2 feet square, like those
found in the U.S., or are they smaller?
I am trying to find out how big the ETA-10P Pipers are, and I have picture
that has a floor tile as a reference. The image,
http://www.tno.nl/instit/fel/museum/computer/eta10p.jpg,
is rather funny looking, as the people make the box look small.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
I don't think that is a floor tile. If you'll know the floor is carpeted,
and the tile is mirrored.
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1:34 p.m.
Try this:
Open the photo in Photoshop or similar. Place cursor at one side of either
watch in the photo, mark pixels, then move the cursor to the opposite side of
watch, trying to keep it straight, and mark the pixels again. Measure the
average watch and extrapolate from there. Obviously you would then measure the
Piper the same way. Try the guy's belt that is in plain view also. The belt
would be a fairly consistent thing to measure also, although it looks like a
wider than normal one.
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31 Mar
31 Mar
9:01 a.m.
>Are European floor tiles for computer rooms 2 feet
square, like those
>found in the U.S., or are they smaller?
Dependig which system you buy. There are American 2 ft tiles available,
or European 50 and 60 cm tiles. I temember very well the time then I
did 'floor diving'.
>I am trying to find out how big the ETA-10P Pipers
are, and I have picture
>that has a floor tile as a reference. The image,
>http://www.tno.nl/instit/fel/museum/computer/eta10p.jpg,
>is rather funny looking, as the people make the box look small.
I don't think that is a floor tile. If you'll
know the floor is carpeted,
and the tile is mirrored.
YOu are right, but it is still a doubble floor tile - The lower side is
typical metal coated to reduce (radio) noise, transmited from the large
antennas ...err... cables below :) - and floor tiles wit carpet tiles
atop are usual for 'high quality' computer rooms - don't forget, banks,
insurence companies and similar sites have a standard to maintain...
Gruss
H.
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7:41 a.m.
On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Hans Franke wrote:
YOu are right, but it is still a doubble floor tile -
The lower side is
typical metal coated to reduce (radio) noise, transmited from the large
antennas ...err... cables below :) - and floor tiles wit carpet tiles
atop are usual for 'high quality' computer rooms - don't forget, banks,
insurence companies and similar sites have a standard to maintain...
Hmm? The banks, insurance companies and similar sites _I've_ worked
in reserved the image for public areas -- the computer rooms not
coming under that heading. The computer rooms at Prudential, Merrill
and the Federal Reserve Bank of NY (to give recent examples) are about
as showy as an impound lot. Now some of them _do_ have things like
control centers with lots of screens showing different stuff that the
PHBs will escort tourists past, the floors of those rooms are
carpeted. (And of course, the screens are just for show, since the
important data is going into logfiles and the critical alerts are
going forth via pagers and email).
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you'll just take the fall" Michael Longcor
9:47 a.m.
> YOu are right, but it is still a doubble floor
tile - The lower side is
> typical metal coated to reduce (radio) noise, transmited from the large
> antennas ...err... cables below :) - and floor tiles wit carpet tiles
> atop are usual for 'high quality' computer rooms - don't forget, banks,
> insurence companies and similar sites have a standard to maintain...
Hmm? The banks, insurance companies and similar sites
_I've_ worked
in reserved the image for public areas -- the computer rooms not
coming under that heading. The computer rooms at Prudential, Merrill
and the Federal Reserve Bank of NY (to give recent examples) are about
as showy as an impound lot. Now some of them _do_ have things like
control centers with lots of screens showing different stuff that the
PHBs will escort tourists past, the floors of those rooms are
carpeted. (And of course, the screens are just for show, since the
important data is going into logfiles and the critical alerts are
going forth via pagers and email).
Maybe I have to add that my vision is based in the 70s and 80s.
For example I don't know the situation today, but in the early
80s the computer centre of the Münchner Rück (Worlds number one
'Rueckversicherung' - I don't know the english term - it's an
insurance company that secures the risks of insurance companies)
looked more like a chairman's suite than a workplace - wooden
covered walls, carpet floor (on tiles :), indirect shadeless
ilumination, everything just _expensive_ - and spacy - you could
walk around every mainframe like on a country yard - some 900
square meters (~10,000 sq ft) just for ONE machine (with
perhipherals). A similar (but less expensive) setting could be
found thru several other companies here in Munich.
Gruss
H.
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2:10 p.m.
On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Hans Franke wrote:
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> > YOu are right, but it is still a doubble
floor tile - The lower side =
is
> > typical metal coated to reduce (radio)
noise, transmited from the lar=
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> > antennas ...err... cables below :) - and
floor tiles wit carpet tiles
> > atop are usual for 'high quality' computer rooms - don't forget,
bank=
s,
> insurence
companies and similar sites have a standard to maintain...
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Hmm? The banks, insurance companies and similar
sites _I've_ worked
in reserved the image for public areas -- the computer rooms not
coming under that heading. The computer rooms at Prudential, Merrill
and the Federal Reserve Bank of NY (to give recent examples) are about
as showy as an impound lot. Now some of them _do_ have things like
control centers with lots of screens showing different stuff that the
PHBs will escort tourists past, the floors of those rooms are
carpeted. (And of course, the screens are just for show, since the
important data is going into logfiles and the critical alerts are
going forth via pagers and email).
=20
Maybe I have to add that my vision is based in the 70s and 80s.
For example I don't know the situation today, but in the early
80s the computer centre of the M=FCnchner R=FCck (Worlds number one
'Rueckversicherung' - I don't know the english term - it's an
insurance company that secures the risks of insurance companies) looked more like a chairman's suite than a
workplace - wooden
covered walls, carpet floor (on tiles :), indirect shadeless
ilumination, everything just _expensive_ - and spacy - you could
walk around every mainframe like on a country yard - some 900
square meters (~10,000 sq ft) just for ONE machine (with
perhipherals). A similar (but less expensive) setting could be
found thru several other companies here in Munich.
=20
Gruss
H.
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3 Apr
3 Apr
2:03 p.m.
On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Hans Franke wrote:
YOu are right, but it is still a doubble floor tile -
The lower side is
typical metal coated to reduce (radio) noise, transmited from the large
antennas ...err... cables below :) - and floor tiles wit carpet tiles
atop are usual for 'high quality' computer rooms - don't forget, banks,
insurence companies and similar sites have a standard to maintain...
Well my computer room at work was originally designed to house our
DECsystem-10 (long departed) and had red carpeted floor tiles (I assume to
contrast against the blue of the -10) and the bright orange/yellow chairs
(the '70s have a lot to answer for, along with my boss who chose the
colours). The carpet was removed sometime later and replaced with vynal
tiles as DEC FS claimed the dust from the carpets was causing head crashes
on the RP05s
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2:28 p.m.
Well my computer room at work was originally designed
to house our
DECsystem-10 (long departed) and had red carpeted floor tiles (I assume to
contrast against the blue of the -10) and the bright orange/yellow chairs
(the '70s have a lot to answer for, along with my boss who chose the
colours). The carpet was removed sometime later and replaced with vynal
tiles as DEC FS claimed the dust from the carpets was causing head crashes
on the RP05s
The Honeywell DPS-8 I worked on from 1990-93 had red carpeted floor tiles
also. They'd probably had the same tiles since the early 70's. That was
one _EVIL_ looking tile puller :^)
Zane
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1 Apr
1 Apr
12:24 a.m.
I don't think that is a floor tile. If you'll
know the floor is carpeted,
and the tile is mirrored.
I have been in plenty of rooms with carpeted floor tiles, and most floor
tiles have a sheet metal underside. I still think it is a tile.
William Donzelli
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