Lot of 6 Z-89s, 2 VT100s, VT180, other terminals, DEC floppy drives available in LA (ebay)
15 Nov
2003
15 Nov
'03
1:27 a.m.
Saw this on Ebay. With about seven hours to go
the bidding is ridiculously low. The guy wants a
local pickup in Los Angeles. If I lived in LA,
I'd put in a decent bid on this stuff, planning
to sell off most of it individually. If any
enterprising soul who does live in the LA area
gets the same idea, I bet he'd have a customer
already for a VT100 and a Z-89. :)
--Bill
OLD COMPUTER LOT, DEC, ZENITH, TELERAY++ - NR
Item number: 2764800262
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2764800262&categ…
15 Nov
15 Nov
7:02 p.m.
New subject: Seen at swapmeet, should I or shouldn't I?
At the Cal Poly Pomona swapmeet today a guy had a TI computer, the little
silver console, I forget the number, maybe 99/4 or something 4, an Odessy2,
and a box of a dozen or so Intellivision carts. Was this somethiing I
should have grabbed for $30? Talking to him it sounds like this is just
some misc remains, that he sold the "good" stuff, intellivison controller
overlays etc. last swapmeet. No controllers or power supplies for what he
had this time.
10:27 p.m.
New subject: Seen at swapmeet, should I or shouldn't I?
On Nov 16, 2003, at 3:02 AM, Mike Ford wrote:
At the Cal Poly Pomona swapmeet today a guy had a TI
computer, the
little silver console, I forget the number, maybe 99/4 or something 4,
an Odessy2, and a box of a dozen or so Intellivision carts. Was this
somethiing I should have grabbed for $30? Talking to him it sounds
like this is just some misc remains, that he sold the "good" stuff,
intellivison controller overlays etc. last swapmeet. No controllers or
power supplies for what he had this time.
Assuming it's a 99/4A, and you don't have any particular interest in an
Odyssey^2 or some Intellivision cartridges, I'd pass. If it's a 99/4
with the chicklet keys, before TI updated (and IIRC gave free
replacements for) the keyboards, I'd buy it. Since the seller mentioned
that his stuff had already been picked over, I doubt an original 99/4
would have survived. TI 99/4A's can be had around here (Kansas City
area) for $9.99 in thrift stores--it's one of the few things I still
see in the wild.
--Mike
16 Nov
16 Nov
11:11 a.m.
New subject: Seen at swapmeet, should I or shouldn't I?
Did the TI have a "proper" keyboard, or did it have a
"calculator-key"
keyboard? If it had the "calculator-key" keyboard, it was a TI-99/4 (no
"A"), & you sould have gotten it (99/4's are considerably rarer than
99/4A's).
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 01:02:59 -0800, "Mike Ford" <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
said:
At the Cal Poly Pomona swapmeet today a guy had a TI
computer, the little
silver console, I forget the number, maybe 99/4 or something 4, an
Odessy2,
and a box of a dozen or so Intellivision carts. Was this somethiing I
should have grabbed for $30? Talking to him it sounds like this is just
some misc remains, that he sold the "good" stuff, intellivison controller
overlays etc. last swapmeet. No controllers or power supplies for what he
had this time.
--
David Vohs
netsurfer_x1(a)fastmailbox.net
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7:42 p.m.
New subject: Seen at swapmeet, should I or shouldn't I?
At 05:11 PM 11/16/03 -0800, David Vohs wrote:
Did the TI have a "proper" keyboard, or did
it have a "calculator-key"
keyboard? If it had the "calculator-key" keyboard, it was a TI-99/4 (no
"A"), & you sould have gotten it (99/4's are considerably rarer than
99/4A's).
I remember it as a flat plastic sheet, but will look again next month. BTW
it did also have a small box , either sound or voice.
9 p.m.
New subject: Seen at swapmeet, should I or shouldn't I?
I had an original 99/4, back when they first came out, and it did have
"keys" not a membrane, but they weren't in the right places, and they
weren't the right size and they didn't have the right "feel."
Basically, you couldn't touch type. It was worse than useless...
Mike Ford wrote:
At 05:11 PM 11/16/03 -0800, David Vohs wrote:
Did the TI have a "proper" keyboard, or
did it have a "calculator-key"
keyboard? If it had the "calculator-key" keyboard, it was a TI-99/4 (no
"A"), & you sould have gotten it (99/4's are considerably rarer than
99/4A's).
I remember it as a flat plastic sheet, but will look again next month.
BTW it did also have a small box , either sound or voice.
17 Nov
17 Nov
8:37 a.m.
New subject: Seen at swapmeet, should I or shouldn't I?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Mike Ford wrote:
At 05:11 PM 11/16/03 -0800, David Vohs wrote:
You're thinking of the Odyssey2 keyboard that you also saw.
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Did the TI have a "proper" keyboard, or
did it have a "calculator-key"
keyboard? If it had the "calculator-key" keyboard, it was a TI-99/4 (no
"A"), & you sould have gotten it (99/4's are considerably rarer than
99/4A's).
I remember it as a flat plastic sheet, but will look again next month. BTW
it did also have a small box , either sound or voice.
15 Nov
15 Nov
7:07 p.m.
New subject: Lot of 6 Z-89s, 2 VT100s, VT180, other terminals, DEC floppy drives available in LA (ebay)
At 07:27 AM 11/15/03 -0800, William Maddox wrote:
enterprising soul who does live in the LA area
gets the same idea, I bet he'd have a customer
already for a VT100 and a Z-89. :)
--Bill
OLD COMPUTER LOT, DEC, ZENITH, TELERAY++ - NR
Item number: 2764800262
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2764800262&categ…
Actually this is out near Riverside, about 40 miles east of LA.. Lemme know
when you are getting it Marvin and maybe I can show you a couple places out
here.
16 Nov
16 Nov
2:11 a.m.
New subject: Lot of 6 Z-89s, 2 VT100s, VT180, other terminals, DECfloppy drives available in LA (ebay)
Hi Mike,
Thanks, but I am leaving in a couple of minutes to go get the stuff. I
would love to take a look at a couple of places out there, but it sounds
like the timing is wrong here :(.
BTW, he emailed me and apparently has a few other things so we'll see
what he has when I get there.
Marvin
Mike Ford wrote:
At 07:27 AM 11/15/03 -0800, William Maddox wrote:
enterprising soul who does live in the LA area
gets the same idea, I bet he'd have a customer
already for a VT100 and a Z-89. :)
--Bill
OLD COMPUTER LOT, DEC, ZENITH, TELERAY++ - NR
Item number: 2764800262
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2764800262&categ…
Actually this is out near Riverside, about 40 miles east of LA.. Lemme know
when you are getting it Marvin and maybe I can show you a couple places out
here. 
2:21 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Sellam,
Any chance of a VCF East in 2004? A location in CT would be great, it
would be a good midpoint for all the collectors in MA/NH/RI and the ones in
NY/NJ/PA. There are a lot of hotels with conference halls around the
Buckland Mall (exit 62?) off of RT-84 CT, plus with the mall, and lots of
local fast food and restaurants, there would be plenty for show goers to do
before/after the show. There is a massive videogame (2nd largest show in
the US next to www.austingamingexpo.com which is the largest) event in
March: www.phillyclassic.com so if you could schedule around it, that would
be great.
Curt
17 Nov
17 Nov
1:17 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Curt Vendel wrote:
Sellam,
Any chance of a VCF East in 2004? A location in CT would be great, it
would be a good midpoint for all the collectors in MA/NH/RI and the ones in
NY/NJ/PA. There are a lot of hotels with conference halls around the
Buckland Mall (exit 62?) off of RT-84 CT, plus with the mall, and lots of
local fast food and restaurants, there would be plenty for show goers to do
before/after the show. There is a massive videogame (2nd largest show in
the US next to www.austingamingexpo.com which is the largest) event in
March: www.phillyclassic.com so if you could schedule around it, that would
be great.
Curt
Actually, the New Haven/Danbury/Hartford areas might be a better option
for those coming from the south, rather than eastern CT...
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--- ICQ# 905818
6:40 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Danbury is also a superb area, you've got the Danbury Mall, there is also
the airport there, lots of hotels with convention centers connected, I think
also Metro North rail isn't too far either.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Woyciesjes" <dwoyciesjes(a)comcast.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
Curt Vendel wrote:
>
> Sellam,
>
> Any chance of a VCF East in 2004? A location in CT would be great,
it
> would be a good midpoint for all the collectors
in MA/NH/RI and the ones
in
> NY/NJ/PA. There are a lot of hotels with
conference halls around the
> Buckland Mall (exit 62?) off of RT-84 CT, plus with the mall, and lots
of
> local fast food and restaurants, there would be
plenty for show goers to
do
> before/after the show. There is a massive
videogame (2nd largest show
in
> the US next to www.austingamingexpo.com which is
the largest) event in
> March: www.phillyclassic.com so if you could schedule around it, that
would
be great.
Curt
Actually, the New Haven/Danbury/Hartford areas might be a better option
for those coming from the south, rather than eastern CT...
--
--- Dave Woyciesjes
--- ICQ# 905818 
6:42 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
c'mon... what about VCF central Sellam??
:)
----- Original Message -----
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To: <dwoyciesjes(a)comcast.net>et>; "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
to
Danbury is also a superb area, you've got the
Danbury Mall, there is also
the airport there, lots of hotels with convention centers connected, I
think
also Metro North rail isn't too far either.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Woyciesjes" <dwoyciesjes(a)comcast.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
ones
Curt Vendel wrote:
>
> Sellam,
>
> Any chance of a VCF East in 2004? A location in CT would be great,
it
> > would be a good midpoint for all the collectors in MA/NH/RI and the in
> > NY/NJ/PA. There are a lot of hotels with conference halls around
the
> Buckland
Mall (exit 62?) off of RT-84 CT, plus with the mall, and lots
of
> > local fast food and restaurants, there would be plenty for show goers do
> > before/after the show. There is a massive videogame (2nd largest
show
in
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> the US next to www.austingamingexpo.com
which is the largest) event in
> March: www.phillyclassic.com so if you could schedule around it, that
would
be
great.
Curt
Actually, the New Haven/Danbury/Hartford areas might be a better option
for those coming from the south, rather than eastern CT...
--
--- Dave Woyciesjes
--- ICQ# 905818
18 Nov
18 Nov
2:45 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Jay West wrote:
c'mon... what about VCF central Sellam??
Hi Jay.
This is also in the planning. John Keys has expressed interest in hosting
a VCF Midwest but these things take time.
Unless someone gets involved and pushes this through, don't expect a VCF
Midwest until sometime in 2005 :(
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8:13 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:45:06AM -0800, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
Unless someone gets involved and pushes this through,
don't expect a VCF
Midwest until sometime in 2005 :(
Well... I should be back in Ohio and/or Wisconsin by then...
-ethan
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17 Nov
17 Nov
6:49 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Of a VCF East, Curt vendel suggests:
Danbury is also a superb area, you've got the
Danbury Mall, there is also
the airport there, lots of hotels with convention centers connected, I think
also Metro North rail isn't too far either.
Hey, as a newbie to the group, I need to ask: is the VCF customarily held
at a particular time of year? I'll likely be around New York/New England
in late June or early July, and it'd be a happy coincidence if it just
happened to take place right about then. :)
(There. I've announced a timetable. Now the RCS has time to hide before I
get there. <g!> )
-O.-
7:16 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, VCF isn't a huge profit
event, in fact I'm guessing that Sellam is lucky if he breaks even.
To this end, I'm guessing that his choice of location might be
determined by three major factors:
1. low cost (of free) conference space
2. a location which will draw the greatest number of people (both
exhibitors and viewers), while considering (1) above
3. a location which speakers are willing to come to
My preference is the Boston area, but I might be willing to drive
to other locations. It is 1000 each way for me to the Boston area,
so CT would not be that much different, I would just know fewer
people and my room would not be free.
I've been thinking that maybe if someplace like RCS has enough space
for the event, they might be able to host it, sort of like the CHM
in CA... Then we would be able to see a greater portion of their
collection without their having to transport it.
--tom
7:38 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
I would love for RCS to host something, but I've been to their location and
you barely have enough room to squeeze by the desks, that place is filled to
the gills with equipment, but it could only hold about 20 people lined side
by side shoulder to shoulder with no room for passing around someone else.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Uban" <uban(a)ubanproductions.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, VCF
isn't a huge profit
event, in fact I'm guessing that Sellam is lucky if he breaks even.
To this end, I'm guessing that his choice of location might be
determined by three major factors:
1. low cost (of free) conference space
2. a location which will draw the greatest number of people (both
exhibitors and viewers), while considering (1) above
3. a location which speakers are willing to come to
My preference is the Boston area, but I might be willing to drive
to other locations. It is 1000 each way for me to the Boston area,
so CT would not be that much different, I would just know fewer
people and my room would not be free.
I've been thinking that maybe if someplace like RCS has enough space
for the event, they might be able to host it, sort of like the CHM
in CA... Then we would be able to see a greater portion of their
collection without their having to transport it.
--tom
7:49 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Oh! I didn't realize. I've never been there, so I wasn't aware of their
space situation...
--tom
At 04:38 PM 11/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I would love for RCS to host something, but I've
been to their location and
you barely have enough room to squeeze by the desks, that place is filled to
the gills with equipment, but it could only hold about 20 people lined side
by side shoulder to shoulder with no room for passing around someone else.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Uban" <uban(a)ubanproductions.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
> In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, VCF isn't a huge profit
> event, in fact I'm guessing that Sellam is lucky if he breaks even.
> To this end, I'm guessing that his choice of location might be
> determined by three major factors:
>
> 1. low cost (of free) conference space
> 2. a location which will draw the greatest number of people (both
> exhibitors and viewers), while considering (1) above
> 3. a location which speakers are willing to come to
>
> My preference is the Boston area, but I might be willing to drive
> to other locations. It is 1000 each way for me to the Boston area,
> so CT would not be that much different, I would just know fewer
> people and my room would not be free.
>
> I've been thinking that maybe if someplace like RCS has enough space
> for the event, they might be able to host it, sort of like the CHM
> in CA... Then we would be able to see a greater portion of their
> collection without their having to transport it.
>
> --tom
>
11:24 p.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
We share the same problem with RCS, although things do seem to be
improving. We ahve moved out of all the storage lockers, and now have
reasonable warehouse space. We plan to close out millsite over the next
year, and hope to expand in the warehouse area, although that is several
months away and dependent on the good graces of the EDC.
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Curt vendel wrote:
I would love for RCS to host something, but I've
been to their location and
you barely have enough room to squeeze by the desks, that place is filled to
the gills with equipment, but it could only hold about 20 people lined side
by side shoulder to shoulder with no room for passing around someone else.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Uban" <uban(a)ubanproductions.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, VCF
isn't a huge profit
event, in fact I'm guessing that Sellam is lucky if he breaks even.
To this end, I'm guessing that his choice of location might be
determined by three major factors:
1. low cost (of free) conference space
2. a location which will draw the greatest number of people (both
exhibitors and viewers), while considering (1) above
3. a location which speakers are willing to come to
My preference is the Boston area, but I might be willing to drive
to other locations. It is 1000 each way for me to the Boston area,
so CT would not be that much different, I would just know fewer
people and my room would not be free.
I've been thinking that maybe if someplace like RCS has enough space
for the event, they might be able to host it, sort of like the CHM
in CA... Then we would be able to see a greater portion of their
collection without their having to transport it.
--tom
6 Jan
6 Jan
2:51 a.m.
New subject: 3307
Mike Thompson seems to have uploaded the Wang pictures at last to our site
at museum.com. I think these were the VS-85, VS-90 and VS-100 machines.
--
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
17 Nov
17 Nov
7:35 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Well VCF (west coast and the original, 6 shows to date?) has always been
held in the fall (Sept - Oct timeframe usually as I've seen it, I've only
had a chance to exhibit at one of them so far)
The 1st VCF East was in late spring (was it May??? I can't remember, it was
a while ago...) I like the May/June timeframe myself...
Curt
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From: "O. Sharp" <ohh(a)drizzle.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
Of a VCF East, Curt vendel suggests:
> Danbury is also a superb area, you've got the Danbury Mall, there is
also
> the airport there, lots of hotels with convention
centers connected, I
think
also Metro
North rail isn't too far either.
Hey, as a newbie to the group, I need to ask: is the VCF customarily held
at a particular time of year? I'll likely be around New York/New England
in late June or early July, and it'd be a happy coincidence if it just
happened to take place right about then. :)
(There. I've announced a timetable. Now the RCS has time to hide before I
get there. <g!> )
-O.-
19 Nov
19 Nov
4:13 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Am 17 Nov 2003 16:35 meinte Curt vendel:
> Hey, as a newbie to the group, I need to ask: is
the VCF customarily held
> at a particular time of year? I'll likely be around New York/New England
> in late June or early July, and it'd be a happy coincidence if it just
> happened to take place right about then. :)
> (There. I've announced a timetable. Now the
RCS has time to hide before I
> get there. <g!> )
Well VCF (west coast and the original, 6 shows to
date?) has always been
held in the fall (Sept - Oct timeframe usually as I've seen it, I've only
had a chance to exhibit at one of them so far)
The 1st VCF East was in late spring (was it May??? I
can't remember, it was
a while ago...) I like the May/June timeframe myself...
And then there's of course VCFe (5th issue coming up), always held
on the weekend closest to 1st of May (next time May 1st/2nd). It's
not to desirable to have both to close - next year it's already too
close (less than 4 weeks).
Also, Sallam, Boston in April migh still hold _snow_, something
not seen in your area of CA for a long time - no, I'm not talking
about a little bit of white stuff, but rather enugh and over more
than just a few hours - but beeing the well educated young man as
I know you are, you may have herared of.
Am 17 Nov 2003 14:42 meinte Jay West:
c'mon... what about VCF central Sellam??
I suggest Yates Center, Kansas, maybe not world's smaltest MoN-town,
but with probably the one with highest classic computer to citizen
ratio in the world :)
Am 17 Nov 2003 16:23 meinte John Lawson:
Hey! Howsabout VCF-Not-So-West, here in Carson City??
Or Reno....
Cool, we even don't need any artificial light, this place is known
to be lit up by iridium flares :)
OR - buy a couple of semi-trucks - VCF Portable!!
John, you're realy advancing on your way to become a real Hick/Geek
crossover :) But yeah, come to think of it, the VCF Tour might
be a real interesting idea.
Am 17 Nov 2003 16:27 meinte Bryan Pope:
Well, how about VCF, eh? (in Canada!) ;-)
Vintage Canadian Festival?
> OR - shutup!
Err... I guess I better do so :)
Gruss
H.
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http://www.vcfe.org/
5:04 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Boston is all well and good and if MIT were to allow something, that would
be great, but I think it should be moved down 100-150 miles to allow a lot
of the collectors in NJ/PA/OH to come, this is why, I think CT is a very
good locale.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
before I
only
was
Am 17 Nov 2003 16:35 meinte Curt vendel:
> > Hey, as a newbie to the group, I need to ask: is the VCF customarily
held
> > at a particular time of year? I'll
likely be around New York/New
England
> in late
June or early July, and it'd be a happy coincidence if it just
> happened to take place right about then. :)
> > (There. I've announced a timetable. Now the RCS has time to hide
> get
there. <g!> )
> Well VCF (west coast and the original, 6 shows to date?) has always been
> held in the fall (Sept - Oct timeframe usually as I've seen it, I've
had a chance
to exhibit at one of them so far)
> The 1st VCF East was in late spring (was it May??? I can't remember, it
a while
ago...) I like the May/June timeframe myself...
And then there's of course VCFe (5th issue coming up), always held
on the weekend closest to 1st of May (next time May 1st/2nd). It's
not to desirable to have both to close - next year it's already too
close (less than 4 weeks).
Also, Sallam, Boston in April migh still hold _snow_, something
not seen in your area of CA for a long time - no, I'm not talking
about a little bit of white stuff, but rather enugh and over more
than just a few hours - but beeing the well educated young man as
I know you are, you may have herared of.
Am 17 Nov 2003 14:42 meinte Jay West:
c'mon... what about VCF central Sellam??
I suggest Yates Center, Kansas, maybe not world's smaltest MoN-town,
but with probably the one with highest classic computer to citizen
ratio in the world :)
Am 17 Nov 2003 16:23 meinte John Lawson:
Hey! Howsabout VCF-Not-So-West, here in Carson
City?? Or Reno....
Cool, we even don't need any artificial light, this place is known
to be lit up by iridium flares :)
OR - buy a couple of semi-trucks - VCF
Portable!!
John, you're realy advancing on your way to become a real Hick/Geek
crossover :) But yeah, come to think of it, the VCF Tour might
be a real interesting idea.
Am 17 Nov 2003 16:27 meinte Bryan Pope:
Well, how about VCF, eh? (in Canada!) ;-)
Vintage Canadian Festival?
> OR - shutup!
Err... I guess I better do so :)
Gruss
H.
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1:54 p.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Curt vendel wrote:
Boston is all well and good and if MIT were to allow
something, that would
be great, but I think it should be moved down 100-150 miles to allow a lot
of the collectors in NJ/PA/OH to come, this is why, I think CT is a very
good locale.
Find me a good location that fits all my criteria and I will study it
seriously.
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2:33 p.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
I'll see what I can do, I already have some idea's... give me a week or so.
Curt
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November 19, 2003 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
Festival
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Curt vendel wrote:
> Boston is all well and good and if MIT were to allow something, that
would
> be great, but I think it should be moved down
100-150 miles to allow a
lot
of the
collectors in NJ/PA/OH to come, this is why, I think CT is a very
good locale.
Find me a good location that fits all my criteria and I will study it
seriously.
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17 Nov
17 Nov
8:21 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
I'd be willing to host a central VCF event within the Midwest Gaming
Classic this May if people want and if it's ok with Sellam. We already
have the original Milatari Midi-Maze display and are getting local
computer groups involved with other displays.
Marty
10:14 a.m.
New subject: Was: Re: VCF East in 2004? Now VCF Midwest
I was already planning something for 2004 in April but that conflicts with
VCF East and VCF Europe. I'm now looking at maybe mid or late July but the
heat here is bad in July and August. If you would like to work together on
something contact me off list.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Scott Goldberg" <wgungfu(a)csd.uwm.edu>
To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
I'd be willing to host a central VCF event within
the Midwest Gaming
Classic this May if people want and if it's ok with Sellam. We already
have the original Milatari Midi-Maze display and are getting local
computer groups involved with other displays.
Marty
5:30 p.m.
New subject: Was: Re: VCF East in 2004? Now VCF Midwest
From: "Keys" <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
I was already planning something for 2004 in April but that conflicts with
VCF East and VCF Europe. I'm now looking at maybe mid or late July but the
heat here is bad in July and August. If you would like to work together on
something contact me off list.
Thanks for the offer, but perhaps you didn't read through the text below.
I'm offering to host it in the computer area of the Midwest Gaming Classic
(consoles, computers, coin-ops, pinball), and the dates for that show are
May 22nd and 23rd in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. If you'd like to work together
on coordinating a VCF event at the MGC, that'd be great. Otherwise, good
luck with your event and thanks again for the offer.
Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Scott Goldberg" <wgungfu(a)csd.uwm.edu>
To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: VCF East in 2004?
I'd be willing to host a central VCF event
within the Midwest Gaming
Classic this May if people want and if it's ok with Sellam. We already
have the original Milatari Midi-Maze display and are getting local
computer groups involved with other displays.
Marty
11:01 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Martin Scott Goldberg declared on Monday 17 November 2003 05:21 pm:
I'd be willing to host a central VCF event within
the Midwest Gaming
Classic this May if people want and if it's ok with Sellam. We already
have the original Milatari Midi-Maze display and are getting local
computer groups involved with other displays.
What's the location of that event?
-- Pat
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5:23 p.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Martin Scott Goldberg declared on Monday 17 November 2003 05:21 pm:
Milwaukee, Wisconsin. We're entering our 3rd year now and are moving to a
large hotel/conference center location (biggest in Wisconsin).
Marty
I'd be willing to host a central VCF event
within the Midwest Gaming
Classic this May if people want and if it's ok with Sellam. We already
have the original Milatari Midi-Maze display and are getting local
computer groups involved with other displays.
What's the location of that event?
-- Pat
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Slackware Linux -- http://slackware.com
Purdue University Research Computing -- http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs
18 Nov
18 Nov
2:49 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, O. Sharp wrote:
Hey, as a newbie to the group, I need to ask: is the
VCF customarily held
at a particular time of year? I'll likely be around New York/New England
in late June or early July, and it'd be a happy coincidence if it just
happened to take place right about then. :)
The main VCF is always held sometime in September or October. Next year's
event already has a set date: October 30-31, 2004. And you know what that
means? HALLOWEEN VCF! Come dressed as your favorite nerd.
VCF Europa is always at the very end of April or the very beginning of
May. This year's event is May 1-2.
The first VCF East was held in July of 2001 and was in Marlborough, Mass.
I wanted to make it a regular event but the economy and other factors got
in the way. With the April 2004 event I hope this marks the beginning of
a regular yearly event.
A VCF Midwest will someday arise, as will a VCF South, though these may be
biennial (occuring every two years).
I also have desires for a VCF UK, VCF South America (there is interest
actually), VCF "Down Under" (Australia) and VCF Japan.
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8:25 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:49:47AM -0800, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
I also have desires for a VCF UK, VCF South America
(there is interest
actually), VCF "Down Under" (Australia) and VCF Japan.
What's the scoop on VCF Australia? Timeframe? Location? I might be
in a position to go there if the timing is right.
-ethan
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New subject: VCF East in 2004?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Ethan Dicks wrote:
What's the scoop on VCF Australia? Timeframe?
Location? I might be
in a position to go there if the timing is right.
Nothing as of yet. There have been spurts of activity with folks trying
to muster enough of a group to get something going but there just is not
enough critical mass yet.
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19 Nov
19 Nov
4:13 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
Am 18 Nov 2003 22:25 meinte Ethan Dicks:
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:49:47AM -0800, Vintage
Computer Festival wrote:
> I also have desires for a VCF UK, VCF South America (there is interest
> actually), VCF "Down Under" (Australia) and VCF Japan.
So weill maybe some other ... instead of Australia, New Zealand might
also be a place to considere.
What's the scoop on VCF Australia? Timeframe?
Location? I might be
in a position to go there if the timing is right.
Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather
at 18-Nov-2003 22:10 Z
South Pole Station
PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -36.8 F (-38.2 C) Windchill -72.09 F (-57.8 C)
APO AP 96598 Wind 10.1 kts Grid 017 Barometer 676.5 mb (10760 ft)
Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov
http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html
Now what about VCF-Antarktica? Linux is starting to become Vintage !
Gruss
H.
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9:11 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:13:15PM +0100, Hans Franke wrote:
So weill maybe some other ... instead of Australia,
New Zealand might
also be a place to considere.
That would be cool, too. I'll be in Christchurch next November. I would
thing, though, that for critical mass, Auckland might be more reasonable.
Now what about VCF-Antarktica? Linux is starting to
become Vintage !
I do have my SBC-6120 with me, as well as some 1802s and a fistfull of
CMOS bits to make at least one Elf. I think, however, that transportation
would be the primary issue inhibiting such a venture. :-)
Linux isn't a curiousity here - I've been using it as my primary OS
since I arrived (on my personal laptop and all the shared desktops
for members of the project) Also, we run the AMANDA neutrino detector
on an assembly of Linux machines, with some PPC VMS boards running
LynxOS, but none of it is Classic hardware/software yet.
-ethan
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17 Nov
17 Nov
1:03 p.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
But, if it's somewhere near NYC, it'll be midpoint for Boston and
Washington.
Peace... Sridhar
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Curt Vendel wrote:
Sellam,
Any chance of a VCF East in 2004? A location in CT would be great, it
would be a good midpoint for all the collectors in MA/NH/RI and the ones in
NY/NJ/PA. There are a lot of hotels with conference halls around the
Buckland Mall (exit 62?) off of RT-84 CT, plus with the mall, and lots of
local fast food and restaurants, there would be plenty for show goers to do
before/after the show. There is a massive videogame (2nd largest show in
the US next to www.austingamingexpo.com which is the largest) event in
March: www.phillyclassic.com so if you could schedule around it, that would
be great.
Curt
18 Nov
18 Nov
2:42 a.m.
New subject: VCF East in 2004?
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Curt Vendel wrote:
Any chance of a VCF East in 2004? A location in CT
would be great, it
would be a good midpoint for all the collectors in MA/NH/RI and the ones in
NY/NJ/PA. There are a lot of hotels with conference halls around the
Buckland Mall (exit 62?) off of RT-84 CT, plus with the mall, and lots of
local fast food and restaurants, there would be plenty for show goers to do
before/after the show. There is a massive videogame (2nd largest show in
the US next to www.austingamingexpo.com which is the largest) event in
March: www.phillyclassic.com so if you could schedule around it, that would
be great.
Hi Curt.
Yes, there will be a VCF East in 2004. The tenative date is sometime in
April. I don't have anything beyond that because I haven't been able to
find a suitable venue yet. My search has centered on somewhere in Boston.
I'm hoping to find a user's group at MIT that can sponsor the VCF and we
can then hold it right on campus, which would be ideal.
However, this is not set in stone. Some of the suggestions you've given
and others I have heard are good ones, but as someone else pointed out, it
has to be in a centrally located area with a large population center.
Boston fits this bill nicely because it has the added nuance of being a
technology center as well.
I'm hoping to have dates announced by December, but it depends on how much
help I get finding a location in Boston (or elsewhere). I need a place
that has at least one conference room suitable for seating 50 people and a
large adjoining hall of at least 1500-2000 sqft. The price for rental
should be cheap: less than $1,500 for the weekend plus a Friday setup.
Everything else (tables, chairs, etc.) is not an issue.
So, if you have a place in mind where you'd like VCF East 2004 to be,
please do some scouting for me and send me a pitch.
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16 Nov
16 Nov
1:11 p.m.
New subject: Lot of 6 Z-89s, 2 VT100s, VT180, other terminals, DECfloppy drives available in LA (ebay)
Well, I picked up the lot this afternoon, and it has some rather
interesting items! Everything fit in my van quite nicely with quite a
bit of extra space.
There are several Interstate Electronics Voice Recognition Systems using
Multibus cards. Unfortunately, no software came for the voice
recognition boards. But I did get the manuals and he has the schematics
for the boards.
There are six Z-89 computers; each one appears to have been modified for
use with an Interstate Electronics Voice Recognition board. If anyone
has the software for this board, I would sure like to get a copy! There
are also two Z-87 5 1/4" external disk drives.
There are several Interstate Electronics Voice Recognition boxes
including a prototypes. The dates appear to be from the mid to late
1970's. There are the early Multibus cards as well as a card for the PC.
Somewhere along the line, the voice recognition hardware was transferred
to a custom IC which he is keeping to sell later (somewhere around 5000
chips.)
The DEC stuff included the VT-100, VT-180, VT-220, RX02 (?) double 8
1/2" disk drives, and another double 8 1/2" external disk drive.
There was also an HP 9122 3 1/2" HPIB Disk drive with manual and
original box.
This is the first time I've seen a Teleray terminal and there are two
different models although I didn't write them down. Another terminal was
included, but I forgot the brand.
He also threw in a couple of other items that *I* found interesting
including a TI Bubble Memory Development system, an Interact computer,
and a small printer (D**N, just checked and I left the printer and TI
kit there.)
One thing I have in my collection is an NEC 8201A with some sort of test
fixture attached to the left hand side. After 10 years or so, I
*finally* found out what it is; an S-1001 Channel Tester for NEC
Cellular phones. He had one along with the manual, and loaned the manual
to me to copy!
I rather doubt I'll have much time to play but it was fun picking up the
stuff and meeting the seller!
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