6 Sep
2009
6 Sep
'09
11:30 a.m.
Evan went up to Mike Ross to get a system/3 and a system/38 for the MARCH
museum yesterday. For now, we want to make the 38 more presentable
aesthetically, as there are some rust and paint splatters on it. I'm looking
for some kind of paint, preferably a spray, that can at least come close to
a match.
Thanks
Joe
6 Sep
6 Sep
2:12 p.m.
New subject: IBM AS/400 9402 C04 help needed
I just picked up a pretty cool old CISC based AS/400 box I've been
having fun exploring. Model 9402 C04. It came with a few Twinax
terminals and a pair of modems. Thanks to some great help on the
vintage computer forums I've gotten pretty far but, there are a couple
things I still need help with. Perhaps someone here can help me out.
The big one is that the machine hadn't been powered on in over 14 years.
The batteries were a pile of green goo and very dead. Luckily the
carrier seemed ok and I put new batteries in it but, I'm not sure the
damage hasn't been done. The system now complains about invalid system
password and wants me to bypass it or enter in a valid one. Apparently
this is something that gets generated by IBM. I just bypassed it but,
now the system gives me a messages about the bypass ending in 70 days.
The funny thing is it keeps saying 70 days even after 3 days have past.
Y2K issue perhaps?
I take this to mean my machine will be bricked eventually, or not, and
all my as/400 fun will end eventually. I could be bored with it already
in 70 days but, I'd rather not risk it. I don't have any contacts at IBM
but, maybe someone here can point me to the right email address to beg
and plead to. This is the info needed in case someone here can make it
magically happen as well.
System serial: 10-11845
System type/model: 9402/C04
System password version: QZ100205
Processor card serial: 10-0533010
Right now the box has a V2R3 install on it with none of the development
stuff. What I would really like is R3V2 with all the development stuff
even if it means I have to reinstall every 70 days. IBM doesn't offer
it anymore so, if someone here has a copy they can lend me or even a
fairly complete dump from another as/400 running V3R2 I could restore
from I would be a happy camper. The system does have a
tape drive. Even
images I can make on a Linux box would work as I have one with a
1/4"
tape drive.
I am also getting a Error message about System Processor failed. Return
code X'0022' was returned from the service processor. From job SCPF,
user QSYS, from program QWCIDIOR. If any of that means anything to
anyone. Is this related to the invalid system password or is it a
hardware issue with the service processor ?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions or help.
7 Sep
7 Sep
12:15 a.m.
New subject: IBM AS/400 9402 C04 help needed
leaknoil wrote:
I just picked up a pretty cool old CISC based AS/400
box I've been
having fun exploring. Model 9402 C04. [...] The system now complains
about invalid system password and wants me to bypass it or enter in a
valid one. Apparently this is something that gets generated by IBM. I
just bypassed it but, now the system gives me a messages about the
bypass ending in 70 days. The funny thing is it keeps saying 70 days
even after 3 days have past. Y2K issue perhaps?
Probably still 70 days due to the
battery having failed.
Anyhow, I researched this a few years back when I had a CISC AS/400. To
get a new system password, you'll have to pay IBM for an OS/400 license
transfer, since otherwise you don't actually have an OS/400 license. I
wasn't able to find out an exact price for a license transfer, other
than that it would be *many* thousands of dollars.
IBM changed the OS/400 licensing policy with the RISC-based machines; on
those the OS is licensed to the machine so apparently it can be
transferred with the machine without the astronomical expense. I
haven't tried, though.
Eric
12:21 a.m.
New subject: IBM AS/400 9402 C04 help needed
On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:15 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
IBM changed the OS/400 licensing policy with the
RISC-based
machines; on those the OS is licensed to the machine so apparently
it can be transferred with the machine without the astronomical
expense. I haven't tried, though.
Not exactly. They changed the licensing with V4R1. The first RISC
machines ran V3R7 and have the same non-transferrable license as all
the CISC machines.
ok
bera
12:38 a.m.
New subject: IBM AS/400 9402 C04 help needed
leaknoil wrote:
I replaced the battery and its still saying 70 days no matter how long
passes. I have even reset the system time and it keeps on saying 70 days.
I just picked
up a pretty cool old CISC based AS/400 box I've been
having fun exploring. Model 9402 C04. [...] The system now complains
about invalid system password and wants me to bypass it or enter in a
valid one. Apparently this is something that gets generated by IBM. I
just bypassed it but, now the system gives me a messages about the
bypass ending in 70 days. The funny thing is it keeps saying 70 days
even after 3 days have past. Y2K issue perhaps?
Probably still 70 days due to the
battery having failed.
Anyhow, I researched this a few years back when I had
a CISC AS/400.
To get a new system password, you'll have to pay IBM for an OS/400
license transfer, since otherwise you don't actually have an OS/400
license. I wasn't able to find out an exact price for a license
transfer, other than that it would be *many* thousands of dollars.
IBM changed the OS/400 licensing policy with the RISC-based machines;
on those the OS is licensed to the machine so apparently it can be
transferred with the machine without the astronomical expense. I
haven't tried, though.
Eric
This pretty much is what I have heard too. Although I have also heard
of more then one case where explaining your situation to the right
person can get you the password as well. Unfortunately usually through
sales people rather then the technical side of things. This license
thing seems to be more a IBM sales department controlled thing. People
working on the technical side have no way to do it from what I've heard.
In fact, they don't even seem to know who to contact about it even if
they happen to work on the as/400 side of things.
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