6 Oct
2006
6 Oct
'06
5:24 a.m.
I have an RD54 with a working RSTS system (V10.?) on it.
The RD54 was installed in the microPDP-11/93 that I had.
I have a microPDP-11/53 with RQDX3 and got a few days ago
an Emulex UC07 QBUS SCSI interface with a 1 Gb SCSI disk.
Before I mess up the RSTS (because I don't know anything
about RSTS yet), I would like to make a copy (dump?) of
the complete RD54 to the SCSI disk, so I can restore the
whole RD54 to an other RD54 if this one dies ... or is
messed up completely by me :-)
I think the following steps are a starter (?):
1) install the UC07 and connect the SCSI disk
2) connect the RD54 to the RQDX3
3) start the system till the RSTS "Option" prompt
Then what?
First, I need to know the device names. Is there some
command like RT-11 ".SH DEV" available in RSTS?
Then I probably need to initialise the SCSI disk?
Then I need some sort of command to get *everything*
from the RD54 to the SCSI disk ...
Any help is appreciated!
TIA,
- Henk, PA8PDP
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6 Oct
6 Oct
2:06 p.m.
Fairly complex topic, but lucky you - I have a very similar setup.
Since you are using a UC07, which is the exact same controller I use in my
/23+ with RSTS, I know you can partition the disk using the controller -
MAKE SURE the disk is hard partitioned by the controller to be below 2GB in
size, as RSTS/E does not like disk sizes larger than 2GB (you will get the
repeated, rather funny message "THE DISK IS TOO LARGE!")
If you have another RD54, you can use SAVRES to image the disk over to
another RD54. If you want to replace the disk with a SCSI device, install
the UC07 and disk drive, and then when the "Options <Start>" prompt comes
up, type DSKINT. It will ask you which disk, so put in the correct DUxx:
designator, we'll use DU1: in this example. Other than that, you can pick
the defaults for everything else up to "Patterns? <3>". I'd let it do
the 3
patterns to make sure the disk is reliable, but if you don't want to wait
hours for the disk to initialize 3 times, you can put in '0' and 'Y' to
erase the disk.
Now that you have the freshly formatted disk, you should be returned to the
DSKINT program, press Ctrl-Z. At the "Options <start>" prompt, type COPY.
It'll prompt you for a disk, enter your DUxx: designator again for the SCSI
device.It should then copy the correct files for a bootable (but not useful)
system to the new disk.
Hit CTRL-Z again and go ahead and start the system. Log in as 1,2 and
hopefully you know the password, if you don't, at the "Continue system
startup <YES>" prompt, just say no and then do a "SET PASSWORD
[1,2]", then
use "RUN $SHUTUP" to reboot the system.
From that point, all you need to do is use BACKUP and
RESTORE once logged in
to move your data to the new disk. If you've got a >
2gb disk, you can
DSKINT the other hard partition and run your backup file to that, otherwise
you need a magtape for this.
What you do is enter "BACKUP DU0:[*,*]*.* DU2:BACKUP.BCK" where DU0: would
be the RD54 and DU1: would be the SCSI device.
Then "RESTORE DU2:BACKUP.BCK DU1:" Go ahead and overwrite everything that
was laid down by the COPY.
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me off list or find me
pretty much 24/7 in #ClassicCmp IRC on the Freenode network.
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Subject: how do I copy an RD54 completely?
I have an RD54 with a working RSTS system (V10.?) on it.
The RD54 was installed in the microPDP-11/93 that I had.
I have a microPDP-11/53 with RQDX3 and got a few days ago an
Emulex UC07 QBUS SCSI interface with a 1 Gb SCSI disk.
Before I mess up the RSTS (because I don't know anything
about RSTS yet), I would like to make a copy (dump?) of the
complete RD54 to the SCSI disk, so I can restore the whole
RD54 to an other RD54 if this one dies ... or is messed up
completely by me :-)
I think the following steps are a starter (?):
1) install the UC07 and connect the SCSI disk
2) connect the RD54 to the RQDX3
3) start the system till the RSTS "Option" prompt
Then what?
First, I need to know the device names. Is there some command
like RT-11 ".SH DEV" available in RSTS?
Then I probably need to initialise the SCSI disk?
Then I need some sort of command to get *everything* from the
RD54 to the SCSI disk ...
Any help is appreciated!
TIA,
- Henk, PA8PDP
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10 Oct
10 Oct
6:52 a.m.
Hi Julian,
thanks very much for the description.
Along with some documentation, I hope to succeed :-)
First, I will use the TK50 in the system to make a backup.
I will take a separate TK50 tape for each backup command
to prevent running out of tape during a backup ...
After that, I will install the UC07 with the SCSI disk,
and try the backup to that disk.
I am a bit busy in the house to keep my wife glad, but
I will certainly post the results.
Do you have RSTS V10 (.01 IIRC)? If not, and my backup
is succesfull, I can send you a CD-ROM copy, after I
managed to copy the SCSI disk on my PC to a CD-ROM ...
But that's for later :-)
thanks,
- Henk.
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Subject: RE: how do I copy an RD54 completely?
Fairly complex topic, but lucky you - I have a very similar setup.
Since you are using a UC07, which is the exact same
controller I use in my /23+ with RSTS, I know you can
partition the disk using the controller - MAKE SURE the disk
is hard partitioned by the controller to be below 2GB in
size, as RSTS/E does not like disk sizes larger than 2GB (you
will get the repeated, rather funny message "THE DISK IS TOO LARGE!")
If you have another RD54, you can use SAVRES to image the
disk over to another RD54. If you want to replace the disk
with a SCSI device, install the UC07 and disk drive, and then
when the "Options <Start>" prompt comes up, type DSKINT. It
will ask you which disk, so put in the correct DUxx:
designator, we'll use DU1: in this example. Other than that,
you can pick the defaults for everything else up to
"Patterns? <3>". I'd let it do the 3 patterns to make sure
the disk is reliable, but if you don't want to wait hours for
the disk to initialize 3 times, you can put in '0' and 'Y' to
erase the disk.
Now that you have the freshly formatted disk, you should be
returned to the DSKINT program, press Ctrl-Z. At the "Options
<start>" prompt, type COPY.
It'll prompt you for a disk, enter your DUxx: designator
again for the SCSI device.It should then copy the correct
files for a bootable (but not useful) system to the new disk.
Hit CTRL-Z again and go ahead and start the system. Log in
as 1,2 and hopefully you know the password, if you don't, at
the "Continue system startup <YES>" prompt, just say no and
then do a "SET PASSWORD [1,2]", then use "RUN $SHUTUP" to
reboot the system.
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From that point, all you need to do is use BACKUP
and RESTORE once
logged in
to move your data to the new disk. If you've got a > 2gb
disk, you can DSKINT the other hard partition and run your
backup file to that, otherwise you need a magtape for this.
What you do is enter "BACKUP DU0:[*,*]*.* DU2:BACKUP.BCK"
where DU0: would be the RD54 and DU1: would be the SCSI device.
Then "RESTORE DU2:BACKUP.BCK DU1:" Go ahead and overwrite
everything that was laid down by the COPY.
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me off list
or find me pretty much 24/7 in #ClassicCmp IRC on the
Freenode network.
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