Oh, one more thing I forgot to mention: no one will contact you about the license expiration, but the PAKs won't work anymore. You need to apply for a renewal - same process as when you originally signed up. Delete the old ones, or their expiration will continue to bug you. Don't ask me how I know. :-) The LICENSE utility is your friend. -- Ian ________________________________________ From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian King [IanK at vulcan.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:17 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: RE: 2-problems with VAXstation 3100-76 and VAX 3100 10e Problem 1: you don't make it clear whether the VAXstations are configured with a keyboard and monitor or through a terminal, but I infer from your last bit about VT420 and VT320 that you are using serial. There is a small switch next to the LED array on the back panel that tells the VAXstation whether to use serial or keyboard/monitor. I don't remember which way is which, but try switching it the other way. :-) If the VAXstation is expecting a keyboard but doesn't have one (on its keyboard connection, not on a terminal), it will object. Problem 2: Don't be surprised, it's not their job. The point of the hobbyist license is that it is offered with no support - that's why it's free! However, the forum at openvmshobbyist.com is very helpful, as are people on comp.os.vms - and here. If you can provide a more detailed account of what isn't working, someone can help - someone like me, who has done a fair amount of installing lately. (I just restored a VAX-11/780-5 for the PDP Planet Project.) Did you successfully boot into standalone backup? From there, did you successfully restore the saveset off the OpenVMS CD? It's not like installing Windows.... -- Ian ________________________________________ From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Retep the First [parasang at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:50 PM To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: 2-problems with VAXstation 3100-76 and VAX 3100 10e Hi: Problem 1: I have two Vax with both with similar problems. One is a 3100 VAXstation-76 and the other is a VAX 3100 and both give a keyboard error. Both display a backwards "?" and then "VT420 Keyboard Error - 4" -- the 3100-10e shows VT320 error instead. The VAXstation has not run as yet, but I have had the 10e running in the past. Now both machines display an error. Both machines and peripherals (including the VT420 and VT320) were purchased through eBay. Problem 2: About two years ago I signed up for an openVMS licence. Since then I have been unable to get the operating system working or either Montagar or ENCOMPASS to give me little more than the time of day. It has been almost 2 years since this started and I have tried almost all that I can think of to get it settled. Hopefully you can suggest what to do -- I have gone 1 year past the licence renewal and no-one has even contacted me. Peter __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.

Are you unable to obtain a license through openvmshobbyist.org?

?50? Wow, that's a chunk of change for a 'free' license. I just have to deal with spam from HP on their enterprise servers.... :-) -- Ian

On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 14:05 +0000, Rod Smallwood wrote: Yeah. I'm really going to fork out ?200 per year for HPUG membership, just to get a "free" software licence, even if they bothered to reply to emails. HPUG have *nothing* to offer me. Gordon

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Julian wrote: Good news is that once you've got a number they are not expired in the licensing system, so you only technically have to subscribe once. Mark.