Corda Albert J DLVA wrote: I was at a conference of the Association of Naval Aviation, PBM group in Tucson some years ago. They have a PBM-5, which is the only airframe of any PBM left. Anyway, we were treated to a wonderful dinner speach by two gentlemen who specialize in getting old beasts like this PBM Airframe flyable, and then getting FCC ferry clearance to move them (by air). Anyway they told this whole tale, which I'll leave out here, and then paused for some questions. After much applause, and so forth, the MC of the night said that one of the guys, (the older of the two) wanted to talk about another topic since he had talked about the ferry flight. Well, he launched into a schpeil about how he had had a lot of UFO encounters during his career and wanted to ask this distinguished group (probably all the PBM WW-2 pilots and aircrews left living at the time) if they had been chased or seen any. this banqet was held in one of these large multistory hotels in Tucson, I think maybe a Hyatt. so we have about 2000 people sitting in a room with the ceiling about 80' or so above us. After about two sentences the room went from an after dinner buzz to where all you heard was the echo of the a/c. maybe 10 or 15 seconds later you heard this collective intake of people saying something like "sh..." or something. After about 5 minutes people began to ease up and sneak out, as the talk continued. I felt really sorry for him on the one hand, as the crowd shrank, but on the other hand... I suspect if he had gone into the Apollo debunk crap today, i'm just enough of a rasty old ass to just stand up and tell him he is full of shit, regardless of the crowd. Jim