22 Mar
2001
22 Mar
'01
5:16 a.m.
Keeping track of the finances would be tricky. Someone
will have to manage
the money, and they will be met with varying amounts of distrust by those
who would donate. Maybe a good thing would be to either form a nonprofit or
get one to assimilate us.
And it would need a cool name. :-)
Thoughts?
Not only keeping track of the finances, but what about actual ownership?
I like the club idea but I can just see someone down the road trying to sue
the club for ownership of a particular piece in the case of a dispute. No
doubt there are a lot of legal aspects that would have to be worked out to
protect everyone involved. Then there's the logistics if the club does have
a single repository for storage of the equipment.
I'd certainly be interested in being part of it though. All of us
together could certainly make a bigger impact than singularly.
Jeff
22 Mar
22 Mar
1:55 p.m.
I'm in as well. I think the logistics and legalities could be worked out. I have
space on my Web server I would more than glad to donate for the project. I also
will be building a very large storage building this summer solely for my
computers. There will be plenty of space to park workstations to mainframes. I
live in the Niagara Falls NY area. Two hours to Toronto, Two hours to Syracuse.
Jeff Hellige wrote:
Keeping track
of the finances would be tricky. Someone will have to manage
the money, and they will be met with varying amounts of distrust by those
who would donate. Maybe a good thing would be to either form a nonprofit or
get one to assimilate us.
And it would need a cool name. :-)
Thoughts?
Not only keeping track of the finances, but what about actual ownership?
I like the club idea but I can just see someone down the road trying to sue
the club for ownership of a particular piece in the case of a dispute. No
doubt there are a lot of legal aspects that would have to be worked out to
protect everyone involved. Then there's the logistics if the club does have
a single repository for storage of the equipment.
I'd certainly be interested in being part of it though. All of us
together could certainly make a bigger impact than singularly.
Jeff 
1:20 p.m.
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Brian Roth wrote:
I'm in as well. I think the logistics and
legalities could be worked
out. I have space on my Web server I would more than glad to donate
for the project. I also will be building a very large storage building
this summer solely for my computers. There will be plenty of space to
park workstations to mainframes. I live in the Niagara Falls NY area.
Two hours to Toronto, Two hours to Syracuse.
Just some quick ideas on how this could be expanded:
- A formal "club" is organized with a leadership structure primarily for
handling the business and finances of the club
- Club maintains checking account/credit card for purchases
- Club maintains account with no frills shipping agency like Forward Air
- Club produces monthly newsletter to inform members of what's going on
(upcoming auctions, purchases made, club funds, articles, etc).
- Membership dues are required; membership gives you: access to group
buying power at auctions, ability to use Forward Air account for
shipping, newsletter
The whole club will be based around the premise of giving members access
to surplus auctions nation (or world) wide. This concept of this club
could be expanded to a more general sense, so that folks who collect other
big things--arcade games, cars maybe, who knows what else (washing
machines?)--can also benefit from the collective. This could actually be
the basis of a profitable business, if there are enough hobbyists and
collectors out there of large things.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
3:20 p.m.
The whole club will be based around the premise of
giving members access
to surplus auctions nation (or world) wide. This concept of this club
could be expanded to a more general sense, so that folks who collect other
big things--arcade games, cars maybe, who knows what else (washing
machines?)--can also benefit from the collective.
I say let's not expand much; I think we would be more fruitful if all
resources were dedicated acquiring only classic computers. That's my $0.02.
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu
5:22 p.m.
Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Brian Roth wrote:
Excellent ideas...
I'm in as well. I think the logistics and
legalities could be worked
out. I have space on my Web server I would more than glad to donate
for the project. I also will be building a very large storage building
this summer solely for my computers. There will be plenty of space to
park workstations to mainframes. I live in the Niagara Falls NY area.
Two hours to Toronto, Two hours to Syracuse.
Just some quick ideas on how this could be expanded:
- A formal "club" is organized with a leadership structure primarily for
handling the business and finances of the club
- Club maintains checking account/credit card for purchases
- Club maintains account with no frills shipping agency like Forward Air
- Club produces monthly newsletter to inform members of what's going on
(upcoming auctions, purchases made, club funds, articles, etc).
- Membership dues are required; membership gives you: access to group
buying power at auctions, ability to use Forward Air account for
shipping, newsletter
The whole club will be based around the premise of giving members access
to surplus auctions nation (or world) wide. This concept of this club
could be expanded to a more general sense, so that folks who collect other
big things--arcade games, cars maybe, who knows what else (washing
machines?)--can also benefit from the collective. This could actually be
the basis of a profitable business, if there are enough hobbyists and
collectors out there of large things.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
I think the main focus should stay computers since this is why were here in the
first place. There are a lot of people outside of this list that would like to be
involved as well.
Brian.
2:05 p.m.
This is really exciting. Most of us know of one or more local classic
computer clubs, but I'm willing to bet this would be the first international
organization dedicated to the hobby/lifestyle.
With some success, many of the local organizations might eventually want
become part of our larger group as chapters.
The inevitable question: who would be the fearless leader?
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu
8:33 p.m.
This is really exciting. Most of us know of one or
more local classic
computer clubs, but I'm willing to bet this would be the first international
organization dedicated to the hobby/lifestyle.
With some success, many of the local organizations might eventually want
become part of our larger group as chapters.
The inevitable question: who would be the fearless leader?
I don't think a "leader" as such is possible, each actual bidder, and the
actual owner of the storage area has to be the master of that portion, but
some or "a" coordinator is essential. Perhaps a board that can meet from
time to time to watch the farm, and officers for specific areas?
Things needed.
List server to move this off classic computing, and allow what is likely to
be a moderate amount of non public conversation.
FTP space to quickly allow upload and display of images etc.
Web, of course we need web space. ;)
First person needed.
Email coordinator until a list server is running, and then perhaps to
manage the list.
First thing to know.
Who are all the people, and what sorts of resources can they contribute,
space, a truck, strong back, strong credit line, resale license so we don't
pay sales tax, etc. etc..
What are all these people interested in.
Just do it.
I don't think this is a NASA tupe project where all contingencies have to
be accounted for. Nothing will be a better instructor than to bid on a few
lots and see how it works out.
23 Mar
23 Mar
2:33 a.m.
What you're describing is usually called "a company".
Companies that buy junk and find interested buyers are
called "surplus companies" or beter still "junk dealers".
If you can find someone to work for it for little to no
pay, it's usually called "a charity". In this case,
because it involves mostly the middle-aged attempting
to acquire and maintain products from years ago, I think
you can call it "a club"... but still you'll need to
find a generous soul with too much time, money and storage space.
- John
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