22 Sep
2014
22 Sep
'14
11:09 p.m.
Henk Stegeman wrote:
Hi,
I have compiled a list with all known remaining IBM system/360 CPU's, their
owner, location and if avail a picture.
This webpage also links to other remaining IBM hardware lists.
They are all very short compared with the number of systems IBM ever
produced.
http://www.ibmsystem3.nl/System360/
Any input to make this list more complete is welcome.
Hello,
nice job, thank you for the effort put into that list.
Is there also an interest in newer, 360/370 compatible machines, and perhaps a similar
list for, or an intention to integrate those?
I ask because I was (am?) involved in a rescue Operation for an IBM 4331 that went into a
private collection in Munich some 15 years ago; after disassembly and transport, the
machine was reassembled at VCFe 4.0 as a Work in Progress exhibit, and has meanwhile
reached the same state of functionality that was described to us by the previous owner:
Support processor will boot and can be interacted with on the System terminal, attempting
to start up the main processor shuts the whole machine down again.
One related machine I know of (a 4361) is kept at IBM's Museum in Sindelfingen; we
were there to get the pinout of the System Panel connector (that was missing in our
machine) and had some correspondence with the guys there (who attributed our Problem to
some sort of misconfiguration - the actual installed Hardware, "tie-downs"
inside the machine, and the configuration on the service processor boot floppy have to fit
together in order to get stuff to work), but unfortunately we didn't get anywhere yet
- we have a bunch of documentation for the machine (manuals, schematics and faultfinding
charts) but don't really know where to start with our Problem.
Perhaps getting into contact with other owners will finally get this baby flying again!
So Long,
Arno
23 Sep
23 Sep
2:24 p.m.
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Arno Kletzander wrote:
perhaps a similar list for, or an intention to
integrate those? I ask
because I was (am?) involved in a rescue Operation for an IBM 4331 that
went into a private collection in Munich some 15 years ago; after
We have a 4331, too. Perhaps you already know our site/machine.
functionality that was described to us by the previous
owner: Support
processor will boot and can be interacted with on the System terminal,
attempting to start up the main processor shuts the whole machine down
again.
What do you mean with "start up the main processor"? Doing an IPL?
One related machine I know of (a 4361) is kept at
IBM's Museum in
Sindelfingen; we were there to get the pinout of the System Panel
They also have a 4331 AFAIK. At least they took the 3370 drives that were
part of the machine we got some years ago. We kept the 3340 and 3344
drives.
machine (manuals, schematics and faultfinding charts)
but don't really
know where to start with our Problem.
MAP - Maintenance Analysis Procedures.
Perhaps getting into contact with other owners will
finally get this
baby flying again!
You haven't asked so far, did you ? (I don't remember)
What drives and OS tapes do you have?
Christian
3:10 p.m.
On 9/22/2014 11:09 PM, Arno Kletzander wrote:
Henk Stegeman wrote:
I would rely on the MLM's and other service documentation. They have
pretty good procedures of testing to follow and solution matrices to
follow to remedy the problems. If you are following those and have
encountered a problem, then you should have something that can be helped
with. I've brought up a few systems and you have to go thru the tedious
process of running all the tests sometimes to find something, but things
I have had wrong fell out of tests where I would not have thought to look.
The 4361 is great because it has the storage director integrated in, and
you can run a complete system with just a terminal, a tape drive such as
the 4311 which has the tape controller and drive integrated together,
and disk drives.
It is a great VM personal system if you have one. A friend had one to
himself for 2 years at UMSL at one time. Sad these all got broken up
for the price they brought.
Jim
Jim
Hi,
I have compiled a list with all known remaining IBM system/360 CPU's, their
owner, location and if avail a picture.
This webpage also links to other remaining IBM hardware lists.
They are all very short compared with the number of systems IBM ever
produced.
http://www.ibmsystem3.nl/System360/
Any input to make this list more complete is welcome.
Hello,
nice job, thank you for the effort put into that list.
Is there also an interest in newer, 360/370 compatible machines, and perhaps a similar
list for, or an intention to integrate those?
I ask because I was (am?) involved in a rescue Operation for an IBM 4331 that went into a
private collection in Munich some 15 years ago; after disassembly and transport, the
machine was reassembled at VCFe 4.0 as a Work in Progress exhibit, and has meanwhile
reached the same state of functionality that was described to us by the previous owner:
Support processor will boot and can be interacted with on the System terminal, attempting
to start up the main processor shuts the whole machine down again.
One related machine I know of (a 4361) is kept at IBM's Museum in Sindelfingen; we
were there to get the pinout of the System Panel connector (that was missing in our
machine) and had some correspondence with the guys there (who attributed our Problem to
some sort of misconfiguration - the actual installed Hardware, "tie-downs"
inside the machine, and the configuration on the service processor boot floppy have to fit
together in order to get stuff to work), but unfortunately we didn't get anywhere yet
- we have a bunch of documentation for the machine (manuals, schematics and faultfinding
charts) but don't really know where to start with our Problem.
Perhaps getting into contact with other owners will finally get this baby flying again!
So Long,
Arno
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