15 Apr
2017
15 Apr
'17
9:05 p.m.
How long does it last?
I have two Silent 700 terminals that have not been used since the
mid-80's and a box of thermal paper. Is the thermal paper any good or
should I get some more before I try to play with the terminals.
Is paper that wide available new and not NOS? I bought some TTY paper
and it was NOS and so it is just about to disintegrate before I use
it.
-chuck
15 Apr
15 Apr
9:23 p.m.
It would not hurt it to try, at worst the printout would be faint, how
well the paper survives depends a lot on how it was stored. Direct
sunlight definitely will degrade the paper that is why it is often in
black bags. If the paper is 8.5" wide you could use the roll paper for
thermal fax machines, that paper should be readily available at office
supply stores.
Paul.
On 2017-04-15 10:05 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
How long does it last?
I have two Silent 700 terminals that have not been used since the
mid-80's and a box of thermal paper. Is the thermal paper any good or
should I get some more before I try to play with the terminals.
Is paper that wide available new and not NOS? I bought some TTY paper
and it was NOS and so it is just about to disintegrate before I use
it.
-chuck
9:29 p.m.
On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:
It would not hurt it to try, at worst the printout
would be faint, how well
the paper survives depends a lot on how it was stored. Direct sunlight
definitely will degrade the paper that is why it is often in black bags. If
the paper is 8.5" wide you could use the roll paper for thermal fax machines,
that paper should be readily available at office supply stores.
Sheets of thermal paper can also be used (Gavilan printer used those, as
did some of the fax machines)
Expect the outer wraps of the roll to be the first to go bad, so you'll
probably have to discard the outer fraction of each roll.
9:59 p.m.
On April 15, 2017 8:23:18 PM CDT, Paul Berger via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
It would not hurt it to try, at worst the printout
would be faint, how
well the paper survives depends a lot on how it was stored. Direct
sunlight definitely will degrade the paper that is why it is often in
black bags. If the paper is 8.5" wide you could use the roll paper for
thermal fax machines, that paper should be readily available at office
supply stores.
Paul.
On 2017-04-15 10:05 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
> How long does it last?
>
> I have two Silent 700 terminals that have not been used since the
> mid-80's and a box of thermal paper. Is the thermal paper any good or
> should I get some more before I try to play with the terminals.
>
> Is paper that wide available new and not NOS? I bought some TTY paper
> and it was NOS and so it is just about to disintegrate before I use
> it.
>
> -chuck
I have used new thermal FAX paper purchased at Staples within the last two years in both
Silent 700 model 725 (first generation) and model 745 (second gen) terminals with great
success.
I've found that even if the old paper hasn't darkened due to sunlight or more
significantly, heat, age makes it brittle and so I decided not to risk it being too stiff
or abrasive and damaging the print head. YMMV.
Chris N0JCF
--
Chris Elmquist
11:52 p.m.
My experience with thermal fax paper is that printed copy is best
preserved. I discovered a couple of years ago, that manufacturers'
faxed copies of data from the early 1990s have faded almost to
unreadability.
Not black, but faded, as with disappearing ink
Storage was in a file folder in a file cabinet in temperature and
humidity-controlled environment not exposed to light for very long at all
I've had blue-line copies similarly fade after about 40 years.
Thermofax, anyone?
--Chuck
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