15 Mar
2006
15 Mar
'06
8:19 a.m.
The Museum of Business History and Technology in Wilmington, DE is proud to announce the
arrival of its latest little bundles of joy, an IBM 405 Accounting Machine and an IBM 513
Reproducing Punch.
The 405 weighed in at a hefty 1000 lbs, while the 513 is a relatively svelte 400 or so.
Pictures of the blessed event are available:
http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul01.jpg
http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul02.jpg
http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul03.jpg
http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul04.jpg
http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul05.jpg
http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul06.jpg
http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul07.jpg
http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul08.jpg
Birth announcement euphamisms aside, this was a pretty cool find. The systems came with
405 & 513 schematics -- blueprints, really; 405 & 513 service records and a 513 CE
guide. The 405 also has five programmed plugboards (the system was originally owned by a
liquor distributor in Madison, WI) with various sales reports, as well as a blank board.
Both machines are in very rough condition, as you can see from the pictures. As it turns
out, I spoke to a guy in Green Bay a while back (prompted by a mail list posting) whose
brother was selling some property. On the property was a barn; and in the barn was, you
guessed it, old IBM tabulating equipment. The plugboards even had hay on them! On the
other hand, the wiring bundles actually look pretty un-nibbled by various critters, so go
figure...
What's next? Any retired IBM customer engineers out there with an interest in helping
to restore these machines? Restoring the 405 looks to be an enormous task, but with a
very high coolness factor.
Does anyone know of another organization that has restored one of these?
15 Mar
15 Mar
9:48 a.m.
At 07:19 AM 3/15/2006, Anthony L.Eros wrote:
Does anyone know of another organization that has
restored one of these?
There was an April post by Evan regarding a rescue from a Larry Metzler of
Green Bay, Wisconsin, who had an IBM 513 reproducer and a 405
accounting machine. For a moment, I thought Sellam was helping
to acquire it to the CHM. Is this that system? Or a different one?
Sadly, it looks so corroded that it will never tabulate again...
When it comes to barns in this part of the country, just because
it's not getting rained on doesn't mean it's not going to rust.
- John
12:37 p.m.
On 3/15/2006 at 8:19 AM Anthony L.Eros wrote:
The Museum of Business History and Technology in
Wilmington, DE is proud
to announce the arrival of its latest little bundles of joy, an IBM 405
Accounting Machine and an IBM 513 Reproducing Punch.
Good luck on getting those things operating! They were cranky enough when
they were in maintained condition. It's odd thinking that something I've
actually used is now a rare museum item.
Cheers,
Chuck
1:01 p.m.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Good luck on getting those things operating! They
were cranky enough when
they were in maintained condition. It's odd thinking that something I've
actually used is now a rare museum item.
The SAGE system was already a museum piece WHEN I was using it! :-)
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://ripsaw.cac.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
12:50 p.m.
Does anyone know of another organization that has
restored
one of these?
The 1401 Project at the Computer History Museum has restored a couple of
unit record peripherals that are (relatively) more recent cousins. A 1403
printer and 1402 card reader/punch. Link to the project at
http://ed-thelen.org/1401Project/1401RestorationPage.html. I haven't been
involved with this project, but was on the 1620 Restoration Project.
Nice find, but too bad they are in such poor condition. Looks more like a
recreation (as in rebuild, but could also be fun) project than a
restoration. Last summers IEEE Annuals was devoted to
reconstructions/restorations/recreations. See TOC at
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/tocresult.jsp?isYear=2005&isnumber=32187…
it32=Go+To+Issues.
In the early 1970s I learned FORTRAN II on an IBM 1620 w/o a printer and we
used IBM unit record gear to interpret our output decks. Cool stuff.
Cheers,
Lee Courtney
MontaVista Software, Inc.
2929 Patrick Henry Drive
Santa Clara, CA. 95054-1831
408-572-7816
408-572-7020 Fax
Yahoo IM: charlesleecourtney
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> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Anthony L.Eros
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:19 AM
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org; cctech at classiccmp.org;
> midatlanticretro at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: New Big Iron Acquisition - IBM Tabulating Equipment
>
>
>
> The Museum of Business History and Technology in Wilmington,
> DE is proud to announce the arrival of its latest little
> bundles of joy, an IBM 405 Accounting Machine and an IBM 513
> Reproducing Punch.
>
> The 405 weighed in at a hefty 1000 lbs, while the 513 is a
> relatively svelte 400 or so.
>
> Pictures of the blessed event are available:
>
> http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul01.jpg
> http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul02.jpg
> http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul03.jpg
> http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul04.jpg
> http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul05.jpg
> http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul06.jpg
> http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul07.jpg
> http://www.ddmx.net/ibm405/ibmHaul08.jpg
>
> Birth announcement euphamisms aside, this was a pretty cool
> find. The systems came with 405 & 513 schematics --
> blueprints, really; 405 & 513 service records and a 513 CE
> guide. The 405 also has five programmed plugboards (the
> system was originally owned by a liquor distributor in
> Madison, WI) with various sales reports, as well as a blank board.
>
> Both machines are in very rough condition, as you can see
> from the pictures. As it turns out, I spoke to a guy in
> Green Bay a while back (prompted by a mail list posting)
> whose brother was selling some property. On the property was
> a barn; and in the barn was, you guessed it, old IBM
> tabulating equipment. The plugboards even had hay on them!
> On the other hand, the wiring bundles actually look pretty
> un-nibbled by various critters, so go figure...
>
> What's next? Any retired IBM customer engineers out there
> with an interest in helping to restore these machines?
> Restoring the 405 looks to be an enormous task, but with a
> very high coolness factor.
>
Does anyone know of another organization that has
restored
one of these?
>
>
4:29 p.m.
The Museum of Business History and Technology in
Wilmington, DE is
proud to announce the arrival of its latest little bundles of joy, an
IBM 405 Accounting Machine and an IBM 513 Reproducing Punch.
I am not familiar with this museum - what can you tell us about it?
Those machines can work again, but it looks like a long road to travel.
William Donzelli
aw288 at osfn.org
4:54 p.m.
William Donzelli wrote:
Those machines can work again, but it looks like a
long road to travel.
Although going by the photos alone, there's no sign of missing metal or any
*extensive* pitting - could be a lot worse!
It'd make a fun project to get that lot running again...
cheers
Jules
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