In a message dated 12/19/00 10:23:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: what's even more pathetic is that a commercial is running here advertising best buy/compusa or something like that that shows two guys playing at a game console in a store and it's making atari2600 pacman sounds! Its always interesting that computers in movies and tv constantly make the same beep as the original IBM PC does and that these same movie computers need a lot of typing rather than just a slight movement of the wrist and a click of the mouse button. I guess using a mouse doesnt look as interactive as madly typing on a keyboard. DB Young ICQ: 29427634 hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid! http://www.nothingtodo.org