6 Nov
2012
6 Nov
'12
6:06 p.m.
I need to deal with modifying some COBOL code in the Tops-10 and TOPS-20
usage reporting software, and have no manuals. Yeah, COBOL is COBOL, but
the details (what is "DISPLAY-7" as opposed to "DISPLAY-9"?) are
important.
There are no COBOL manuals on the PDP10 portion of Bitsavers at the moment.
Thanks,
Rich
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900
Seattle, WA 98104
mailto:RichA at vulcan.com
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
(206) 342-2239
(206) 465-2916 cell
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
6 Nov
6 Nov
10:31 p.m.
On Nov 6, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Rich Alderson <RichA at vulcan.com> wrote:
I need to deal with modifying some COBOL code in the
Tops-10 and TOPS-20
usage reporting software, and have no manuals. Yeah, COBOL is COBOL, but
the details (what is "DISPLAY-7" as opposed to "DISPLAY-9"?) are
important.
There are no COBOL manuals on the PDP10 portion of Bitsavers at the moment.
Thanks,
Rich
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900
Seattle, WA 98104
mailto:RichA at vulcan.com
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
(206) 342-2239
(206) 465-2916 cell
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
There is a COBOL-74 manual on bitsavers here:
dec/pdp10/TOPS10_softwareNotebooks/vol10
Mike
7 Nov
7 Nov
11:39 a.m.
From: Mike Cesari
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 10:32 PM
On Nov 6, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Rich Alderson <RichA at vulcan.com> wrote:
> There are no COBOL manuals on the PDP10 portion of
Bitsavers at the
> moment.
There is a COBOL-74 manual on bitsavers here:
dec/pdp10/TOPS10_softwareNotebooks/vol10
Wow. I can't believe that I missed that, I really can't. There are also
COBOL-68 manuals in the dec/pdp10/TOPS10 directory, as well as one so named
explicitly in vol9.
I need to get my brain checked, I guess.
Thanks for pointing that out, and thanks to those who provided information
off-line as well.
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900
Seattle, WA 98104
mailto:RichA at vulcan.com
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
6:52 p.m.
From: Rich Alderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:39 AM
From: Mike Cesari
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 10:32 PM
> On Nov 6, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Rich Alderson
<RichA at vulcan.com> wrote:
>> There are no COBOL manuals on the PDP10
portion of Bitsavers at the
>> moment.
> There is a COBOL-74 manual on bitsavers here:
> dec/pdp10/TOPS10_softwareNotebooks/vol10
Wow. I can't believe that I missed that, I really
can't. There are
also COBOL-68 manuals in the dec/pdp10/TOPS10 directory, as well as
one so named explicitly in vol9.
Well, the COBOL-74 manual on Bitsavers is trashed beyond recovery, by
DEC themselves it would appear.
The manual is consecutively page-numbered, including pages from 2
updates. There are missing pages (no description of the RETURN
verb, for example, though it's in the index) and duplicated pages
in different faces. It's unusable as it stands.
I can probably get what I need from the COBOL-68 manual. Just
refreshing some bits in my tired old brain.
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900
Seattle, WA 98104
mailto:RichA at vulcan.com
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
11:44 p.m.
Rich Alderson wrote:
I need to deal with modifying some COBOL code in the
Tops-10 and TOPS-20
usage reporting software, and have no manuals. Yeah, COBOL is COBOL, but
the details (what is "DISPLAY-7" as opposed to "DISPLAY-9"?) are
important.
There are no COBOL manuals on the PDP10 portion of Bitsavers at the moment.
Sure
there are, for both CBOOL-68 and COBOL-74, in volumes 9 and 10 of
the TOPS-10 Software Notebooks:
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/pdp10/TOPS10_softwareNotebooks/
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