26 Jun
2019
26 Jun
'19
6:36 p.m.
Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service for my
vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.
-chuck
26 Jun
26 Jun
6:48 p.m.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 09:36:30PM -0400, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new
DNS service for my
vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.
I was just investigating free alternatives myself earlier today. (I
have not yet come up with a conclusion.)
I currently use the free he.net ivp6 tunnel so I may already be set up
for their free DNS service, but I don't know yet. (I can recommend the
tunnel.)
Most of the articles on the web mention:
Dynu, afraid.org, Duck DNS, and No-IP
among a few others. The latter sounds like they are really pushing
their paid model, though. (OTOH each of the above has paid tiers for
all but the most basic users.)
If you are using pfSense like I am, they already support:
https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/dns/dynamic-dns.html
I would be happy to hear of actual experiences with any of these.
mcl
27 Jun
27 Jun
1:19 a.m.
New subject: R: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
I use no-ip, the free version. And it's not particularly pushing the paid
option aside just suggesting it on renewal.
There's an email I don't even remember every how many months, requiring 2
clicks to keep the free subscription active, and that's all
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Inviato: gioved? 27 giugno 2019 03:49
A: Charles Dickman; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 09:36:30PM -0400, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new
DNS service for my
vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.
I was just investigating free alternatives myself earlier today. (I
have not yet come up with a conclusion.)
I currently use the free he.net ivp6 tunnel so I may already be set up
for their free DNS service, but I don't know yet. (I can recommend the
tunnel.)
Most of the articles on the web mention:
Dynu, afraid.org, Duck DNS, and No-IP
among a few others. The latter sounds like they are really pushing
their paid model, though. (OTOH each of the above has paid tiers for
all but the most basic users.)
If you are using pfSense like I am, they already support:
https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/dns/dynamic-dns.html
I would be happy to hear of actual experiences with any of these.
mcl
1:38 a.m.
New subject: R: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
I have my DNS records hosted at gandi.net, who are also my registrar. I
have been using for the last 10-15 years with no problems.
I have heard the that you shouldn't have your register be the same
company as your DNS provider, and I intend to revise this proposition.
If the argument still holds then I would keep gandi.net as my registrar
look for a different DNS service.
I tried a lot of third-party DNS services for about five years before
settling on gandi.net. Some were very expensive and some were not.
There was no difference in the quality of service and quality of support
between the expensive and inexpensive ones, but I never had any luck
with the free ones.
Andrew
On 27/06/2019 09:19, Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk wrote:
I use no-ip, the free version. And it's not
particularly pushing the paid
option aside just suggesting it on renewal.
There's an email I don't even remember every how many months, requiring 2
clicks to keep the free subscription active, and that's all
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Inviato: gioved? 27 giugno 2019 03:49
A: Charles Dickman; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 09:36:30PM -0400, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
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Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a
new DNS service for my
vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.
I was just investigating free alternatives myself earlier today. (I
have not yet come up with a conclusion.)
I currently use the free he.net ivp6 tunnel so I may already be set up
for their free DNS service, but I don't know yet. (I can recommend the
tunnel.)
Most of the articles on the web mention:
Dynu, afraid.org, Duck DNS, and No-IP
among a few others. The latter sounds like they are really pushing
their paid model, though. (OTOH each of the above has paid tiers for
all but the most basic users.)
If you are using pfSense like I am, they already support:
https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/dns/dynamic-dns.html
I would be happy to hear of actual experiences with any of these.
mcl
10:56 a.m.
New subject: R: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On 6/27/19 2:38 AM, U'll Be King of the Stars via cctalk wrote:
I have heard the that you shouldn't have your
register be the same
company as your DNS provider, and I intend to revise this proposition.
If the argument still holds then I would keep gandi.net as my registrar
look for a different DNS service.
I've not heard that myself.
But I can see how people might say that in an effort to distribute eggs
across more baskets.
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Grant. . . .
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4:09 p.m.
New subject: R: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On 6/27/2019 12:56 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 6/27/19 2:38 AM, U'll Be King of the Stars via
cctalk wrote:
What I've usually heard is don't have your domain registrar also be your
site host.? Like GoDaddy.? Apparently some people have had problems with the host not
letting them move the name registration when switching hosting providers.? Or vice versa.
I don't have any experience with that. I've either self hosted or, like now, have
co-located hardware.
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John H. Reinhardt
I have heard the that you shouldn't have your
register be the same company as your DNS provider, and I intend to revise this
proposition. If the argument still holds then I would keep gandi.net as my registrar look
for a different DNS service.
I've not heard that myself.
But I can see how people might say that in an effort to distribute eggs across more
baskets.
6:27 p.m.
New subject: R: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On 6/27/19 5:09 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:
What I've usually heard is don't have your
domain registrar also be your
site host.? Like GoDaddy.
?
Apparently some people have had problems with the host
not letting
them move the name registration when switching hosting providers.
Or vice versa.
Ah. Vendor lock in.
I'm guessing that people buy packages that are only valid as a complete
package. So when you try to break the package, everything in the
package vaporizes. Much like triple play TV / Internet Phone from the
Cable / Phone company.
I don't have any experience with that. I've
either self hosted or,
like now, have co-located hardware.
:-)
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Grant. . . .
unix || die
26 Jun
26 Jun
8:02 p.m.
On 6/26/2019 8:36 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new
DNS service for my
vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.
-chuck
I use Duck DNS.? I can't really say much about it though. I just signed up last
month.? So far it works fine.? It's free. The DNS name changes fairly soon after my
home IP updates.? It works with my Ubiquiti EdgeRouter.
The biggest negative I have so far is that you have to use the xxxxx.duckdns.org
hostname.? One that uses a name of your choice (and registration) would be nice.? Do any
do that? For free? Or cheap? I didn't dig real deep into providers.
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John H. Reinhardt
9:05 p.m.
On 6/26/19 7:36 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new
DNS service
for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.
How many people are effected by this?
Straw Poll: Please raise your hand (read: reply) if you are effected.
Please include any features you'd like to see in a replacement.
I see at least the following requirements:
1) Compatibility with existing equipment.
2) The ability to use your own domain name.
3) Be secure.
I ask, because reviewing dyndns-server-perl [1] makes me think that it's
possible (read: not hard) to host this for other people.
1) It seems to use HTTP's basic authentication to protect the script
(interface) that (initiates) the updates.
2) This can be a glorified gateway into RFC standard Dynamic DNS
updates. (Which are trivial to support.)
[1] https://github.com/mnalis/dyndns-server-perl
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Grant. . . .
unix || die
10:54 p.m.
Now that Dyn
has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service
for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement
provider. 
11:57 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Ali via cctalk
Sent: 27 June 2019 06:55
To: 'Grant Taylor' <cctalk at gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net>; 'General
Discussion:
On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: RE: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
What is the exact issue here? As I understand it DynDNS is still being offered
as a service. Is it because there is no longer a free option?
-Ali
I bought a domain from Mythic Beasts. The domain is I think around ?6 a year but includes
free dynamic DNS
https://www.mythic-beasts.com/domains
Dave
Now that
Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service
for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement
provider.
27 Jun
27 Jun
6:23 a.m.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:54:58PM -0700, Ali via cctalk wrote:
As I understand it DynDNS is still being offered as a
service. Is it
because there is no longer a free option?
There has not been a free option for seveal years. I switched to the
paid version.
But now it seems that having been eaten by Oracle, it is now being
digested. (I have seen this process happen over and over again with
acquisitions. The final stage, of selling off whatever is left
afterwards, is "excretion".)
mcl
7:03 a.m.
There has not been a free option for seveal years. I
switched to the
paid version.
But now it seems that having been eaten by Oracle, it is now being
digested. (I have seen this process happen over and over again with
acquisitions. The final stage, of selling off whatever is left
afterwards, is "excretion".)
True that. However, the email I got seems to indicate the service will be
ongoing for a while and speaking from a personal standpoint I paid for a 3
year renewal just a few months back. So unless they are planning on offering
refunds I expect my service to continue for a few more years. By then the
landscape will have changed again.
One issue with the other providers is the lack of integration - at least for
me. On most of the gear I use the DynDns service is a in HW option. So I
don't have to run clients on my clients to update IPs.
-Ali
7:51 a.m.
On Jun 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, Ali via cctalk <cctalk
at classiccmp.org> wrote:
There has not been a free option for seveal
years. I switched to the
paid version.
But now it seems that having been eaten by Oracle, it is now being
digested. (I have seen this process happen over and over again with
acquisitions. The final stage, of selling off whatever is left
afterwards, is "excretion".)
True that. However, the email I got seems to indicate the service will be
ongoing for a while and speaking from a personal standpoint I paid for a 3
year renewal just a few months back. So unless they are planning on offering
refunds I expect my service to continue for a few more years. By then the
landscape will have changed again.
One issue with the other providers is the lack of integration - at least for
me. On most of the gear I use the DynDns service is a in HW option. So I
don't have to run clients on my clients to update IPs.
-Ali
From what I can determine the paid service will
continue, it is the free service
that is being stopped. Kinda sad really. I used to
(until this happened) recommend
dyn as a good service to use. Nice to see the recommendations for others popping
up here.
Time to do a little research.
I?m paid for the next 5 years with Dyn. At that time I?ll have to re-evaluate my options.
David
8:19 a.m.
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, david at kdbarto.org wrote:
From what I can determine the paid service will
continue, it is the free
service that is being stopped. Kinda sad really. I used to (until this
The free service from dyndns.org had been stopped several years ago
(somewhere between 2012 and 2014). I know that because I was forced to
look for a free alternative.
Christian
28 Jun
28 Jun
7:44 p.m.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 1:55 AM Ali via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
What is the exact issue here? As I understand it DynDNS is still being
offered as a service. Is it because there is no longer a free option?
This is a quote from the email I received regarding the Standard DNS
service. It was not the free service.
"Now that this integration work is complete, Oracle is announcing the
end-of-life of the Standard DNS service in favor of our upgraded version on
the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure platform. On May 31, 2020, the ?EOL Date?,
the Standard DNS will be retired and will no longer be available. The
upgrade to Oracle Cloud Infrastructure will require some actions on your
part and must be completed on or before the EOL Date. "
I take this to mean that I have one year to migrate to Oracle or move along.
-Ali
Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new
DNS service
for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement
provider. 
7:56 p.m.
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:44 PM Charles Dickman via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 1:55 AM Ali via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
I have had my own DNS for 20 years, it's pretty simple stuff. I have a
master and a slave linux box, used to be freebsd but when I moved it to
Amazon I changed to Fedora I think. My client pays for it, but that said,
for other DNSing I usually just use Godaddy's DNS, it's easy to use and it
comes with the domain registration service. Not expensive either. They
basically leave me alone and I rarely need to do much to it. Having my own
DNS is more or less just a legacy thing that one of my customers needs,
does not serve me to have one when it's freely provided by godaddy.
So, jumping in late to this conversation, why does it matter that Dyn
and/or Oracle do not supply this service? I may have missed a key point.
It's also easier said than done to set up the DNS I suppose, but if anyone
really needed a temp DNS I could provide it. Contact me privately. I can
also take a look at a DNS record for bugs/issues with reverse lookup and
other OT stuff.
Bill
Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new
DNS service
for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement
provider. 
29 Jun
29 Jun
5:58 a.m.
On Jun 28, 2019, at 10:56 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
In my case, it isn't the DNS service but the dynamic part that matters. I want a name
for my home system, which gets its address from the ISP and that address changes from time
to time.
paul
...
I have had my own DNS for 20 years, it's pretty simple stuff. ...
So, jumping in late to this conversation, why does it matter that Dyn
and/or Oracle do not supply this service? 
27 Jun
27 Jun
8:55 a.m.
On 06/26/2019 08:36 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new
DNS service for my
vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.
-chuck
I use Network Solutions, they are a bit expensive, though.
Godaddy also provides that service. Don't go with the
cheapest, they could go out of business anytime. My
secondary DNS provider did just that, a month after I paid
up for 2 years.
Jon
9:15 a.m.
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To: Charles Dickman <chd at chdickman.com>; General at ezwind.net;
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Subject: Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On 06/26/2019 08:36 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
Though they may score no better than Oracle on some folks "companies to avoid"
list, I use Google as my registrar https://domains.google.com and they do free dynamic DNS
for domains you run with them supporting a handful of client protocols
(https://support.google.com/domains/answer/6147083) - I use dyndns2 coming from my
EdgeRouter Lite, so don't need a program running on a desktop and it has been quite
nice.
Sophie
Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a
new DNS service for
my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.
-chuck
I use Network Solutions, they are a bit expensive, though.
Godaddy also provides that service. Don't go with the cheapest, they could go
out of business anytime. My secondary DNS provider did just that, a month
after I paid up for 2 years.
Jon
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