12 Jan
2005
12 Jan
'05
6:46 a.m.
What we're trying to find out, on two threads now, is how life
was before registered domain names.
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In the unix world, uucp and netnews, both using bang separated
pathnames. Tom could explain the details of FIDOnet, which had
gateways. Then there were all the other corparate/educational
nets with their own naming rules (bitnet,decnet and dec's internal
networks). Most people had slow point-point links at the periphery.
12 Jan
12 Jan
8:36 a.m.
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Al Kossow wrote:
In the unix world, uucp and netnews, both using bang
separated
pathnames. Tom could explain the details of FIDOnet, which had
gateways. Then there were all the other corparate/educational
nets with their own naming rules (bitnet,decnet and dec's internal
networks). Most people had slow point-point links at the periphery.
In FidoNet, every node (host) in the net has a complete map of the
network. The first pass was a simple "host" file ala /etc/hosts,
but it ended up a distributed/assembled reasonably smart symbolic
thing. It never fully did what I thought it ought to -- use the
echomail mechanism to redundantly distribute nodelist fragments
from which your system would assemble on the pieces you
needed.
(Echomail was a multiply-redundant, self-healing,
amorphously-connected database system used to deliver "echo" mail,
the functional equivelant of USENET. It was developed by Jeff Rush
("The Shadow", Dallas TX) not me. It used FidoNet (FSC001) as a
transport mechanism. Echomail is a spectacularly wonderful
mechanism. There was even a robust voting system developed using
it, and people don't come in flavors more paranoid than FidoNet
sysops; if it pleased them it's gotta be good.)
13 Jan
13 Jan
2:39 a.m.
FidoNet sysops paranoid? Which one of our enemies told you that?
-- Bill (WithoutaNet sysop, 1:101/230)
On Jan 12, 2005, at 5:36 PM, Tom Jennings wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Al Kossow wrote:
In the unix world, uucp and netnews, both using
bang separated
pathnames. Tom could explain the details of FIDOnet, which had
gateways. Then there were all the other corparate/educational
nets with their own naming rules (bitnet,decnet and dec's internal
networks). Most people had slow point-point links at the periphery.
In FidoNet, every node (host) in the net has a complete map of the
network. The first pass was a simple "host" file ala /etc/hosts,
but it ended up a distributed/assembled reasonably smart symbolic
thing. It never fully did what I thought it ought to -- use the
echomail mechanism to redundantly distribute nodelist fragments
from which your system would assemble on the pieces you needed.
(Echomail was a multiply-redundant, self-healing,
amorphously-connected database system used to deliver "echo" mail,
the functional equivelant of USENET. It was developed by Jeff Rush
("The Shadow", Dallas TX) not me. It used FidoNet (FSC001) as a
transport mechanism. Echomail is a spectacularly wonderful
mechanism. There was even a robust voting system developed using
it, and people don't come in flavors more paranoid than FidoNet
sysops; if it pleased them it's gotta be good.)
7:29 a.m.
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Bill Sheehan wrote:
FidoNet sysops paranoid? Which one of our enemies
told you that?
Which one's you got? So what's it to you?
PS: I object to the tone of your message and will be flaming your
net host coordinator, the region coordinator, FidoSnooze, and a
few off-topic echos just for good measure!
(To the rest of you: that's a FidoNet joke.)
8:48 a.m.
Tom Jennings wrote:
PS: I object to the tone of your message and will be
flaming your
net host coordinator, the region coordinator, FidoSnooze, and a
few off-topic echos just for good measure!
(To the rest of you: that's a FidoNet joke.)
You will be happy to know that my friend Jason Scott has recently finished that
particular portion of his BBS documentary. DVDs should be ready in about 6 weeks.
--
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Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/
Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
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