11 Mar
2016
11 Mar
'16
6:46 a.m.
Folks,
We're refitting the last unrefitted office here and there's a full bookcase
of grey heading for the skip unless anyone wants to take them away? Must
admit in the 12 years I've worked here I didn't realise there was a shelf
of RSTS manuals!
Deadline is late next week so thurs/fri 17/18th.
--
adrian/witchy
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest home computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
11 Mar
11 Mar
11:22 a.m.
On 11 March 2016 at 06:46, Adrian Graham <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com> wrote:
We're refitting the last unrefitted office here
and there's a full bookcase
of grey heading for the skip unless anyone wants to take them away? Must
admit in the 12 years I've worked here I didn't realise there was a shelf
of RSTS manuals!
I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic, but I've got to ask: What
version of the operating systems? And are they manuals that are
already on BitSavers, if they're not please scan them?
Regards,
Christian
--
Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
Contact information available upon request.
11:50 a.m.
How did I miss this! I could do with some older VMS manuals! Which version of VMS?
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Christian
Gauger-Cosgrove
Sent: 11 March 2016 16:23
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
On 11 March 2016 at 06:46, Adrian Graham <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com>
wrote:
We're refitting the last unrefitted office
here and there's a full
bookcase of grey heading for the skip unless anyone wants to take them
away? Must admit in the 12 years I've worked here I didn't realise
there was a shelf of RSTS manuals!
I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic, but I've got to ask: What version
of the
operating systems? And are they manuals that are already on BitSavers, if
they're not please scan them?
Regards,
Christian
--
Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
Contact information available upon request. 
12:39 p.m.
On 11/03/2016 16:50, "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
How did I miss this! I could do with some older VMS
manuals! Which version of
VMS?
Dave
They're in a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited otherwise
you could've taken them. I'm guessing at the versions but it'll probably be
VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday.
A
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Christian
Gauger-Cosgrove
Sent: 11 March 2016 16:23
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
On 11 March 2016 at 06:46, Adrian Graham <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com>
wrote:
We're refitting the last unrefitted office
here and there's a full
bookcase of grey heading for the skip unless anyone wants to take them
away? Must admit in the 12 years I've worked here I didn't realise
there was a shelf of RSTS manuals!
I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic, but I've got to ask: What version
of
the
operating systems? And are they manuals that are already on BitSavers, if
they're not please scan them?
Regards,
Christian
--
Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
Contact information available upon request. 
12:54 p.m.
On Mar 11, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Adrian Graham <witchy
at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:
On 11/03/2016 16:50, "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
RSTS V4 (from 1973) is from the white binder era. Then came blue, then gray, then
"chinese red" if I remember the order correctly. Maybe the last two are
swapped. So gray would suggest a fairly late version, perhaps V8 or so. Still definitely
interesting and potentially worth scanning; bitsavers only has a few versions and the
differences can be significant.
paul
How did I miss this! I could do with some older
VMS manuals! Which version of
VMS?
Dave
They're in a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited otherwise
you could've taken them. I'm guessing at the versions but it'll probably be
VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday. 
2:44 p.m.
On 11/03/16 17:54, Paul Koning wrote:
RSTS V4 (from 1973) is from the white binder era. Then
came blue, then
gray, then "chinese red" if I remember the order correctly. Maybe the
last two are swapped. So gray would suggest a fairly late version,
perhaps V8 or so. Still definitely interesting and potentially worth
scanning; bitsavers only has a few versions and the differences can be
significant. paul
In VMS-land "Chinese Red" was V4 and whatever-grey-was-called was V5. V3
was (iirc) a blue of some sort.
I assume that RSTS would have been in the same chronological order.
Antonio
--
Antonio Carlini
arcarlini at iee.org
12 Mar
12 Mar
5:08 a.m.
On 11/03/2016 17:54, "Paul Koning" <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote:
OK, they're definitely grey and the RSX ones are Orange. When I'm out and
about later today I need to drive past work so I'll call in and
check/photograph.
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
They're in
a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited otherwise
you could've taken them. I'm guessing at the versions but it'll probably be
VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday.
RSTS V4 (from 1973) is from the white binder era. Then came blue, then gray,
then "chinese red" if I remember the order correctly. Maybe the last two are
swapped. So gray would suggest a fairly late version, perhaps V8 or so.
Still definitely interesting and potentially worth scanning; bitsavers only
has a few versions and the differences can be significant. 
8:35 a.m.
Adrian Graham wrote:
On 11/03/2016
17:54, "Paul Koning" <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote:
They're in a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited otherwise
you could've taken them. I'm guessing at the versions but it'll probably be
VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday.
RSTS V4 (from 1973) is from the white binder era. Then came blue, then gray,
then "chinese red" if I remember the order correctly. Maybe the last two are
swapped. So gray would suggest a fairly late version, perhaps V8 or so.
Still definitely interesting and potentially worth scanning; bitsavers only
has a few versions and the differences can be significant.
11 Mar
11 Mar
1:10 p.m.
I know nothing about RSTS and RSX, how many shelf-feet are we talking? A
handful of DECdirect would be nice too. Not sure what SOC refers to though?
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
Graham
Sent: 11 March 2016 17:40
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
On 11/03/2016 16:50, "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
otherwise
How did I miss this! I could do with some older
VMS manuals! Which
version of VMS?
Dave
They're in a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited you could've taken them. I'm guessing at the
versions but it'll probably
be
VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday.
A
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
Sent: 11 March 2016 16:23
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
On 11 March 2016 at 06:46, Adrian Graham <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com>
wrote:
We're refitting the last unrefitted office
here and there's a full
bookcase of grey heading for the skip unless anyone wants to take
them away? Must admit in the 12 years I've worked here I didn't
realise there was a shelf of RSTS manuals!
I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic, but I've got to ask: What
version of the operating systems? And are they manuals that are
already on BitSavers, if they're not please scan them?
Regards,
Christian
--
Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
Contact information available upon request.
2:39 p.m.
On Mar 11, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Robert Jarratt
<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
I know nothing about RSTS and RSX, how many shelf-feet are we talking? A
handful of DECdirect would be nice too. Not sure what SOC refers to though?
RSTS V4 is 2 or 3 manuals (two binders); eventually it grew to be maybe 10 or so. Less
than two feet, significantly less than VMS.
paul
3:50 p.m.
SOC is the DEC "Systems and Options Catalog" Great stuff for research on when
parts were available, what options were considered supported for systems and all around
good times. They were usually thick (200-300 pages at least in the later VAX era) and
came out quarterly (?). Would be a handful to scan, but oh so nice to have.
John H. Reinhardt
On 3/11/2016 1:10 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote:
I know nothing about RSTS and RSX, how many shelf-feet
are we talking? A
handful of DECdirect would be nice too. Not sure what SOC refers to though?
Regards
Rob
4:05 p.m.
On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:50 PM, John H. Reinhardt
<johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
SOC is the DEC "Systems and Options Catalog" Great stuff for research on when
parts were available, what options were considered supported for systems and all around
good times. They were usually thick (200-300 pages at least in the later VAX era) and
came out quarterly (?). Would be a handful to scan, but oh so nice to have.
You mean the Option/Module List, from Dick Best? There are a number of issues of that
(1973 to 1975, and one from 1983) on Bitsavers already. An issue close to those dates is
perhaps not all that interesting; one from a significantly different date would be quite a
find.
paul
4:31 p.m.
On 3/11/2016 4:05 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
These were catalogs from DEC. Here's one example that I did find on Bitsavers
<https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_deccatalogtionsCatalogNov96_36196682>
There might be more of them available than I had thought...
I didn't know about the lists from Dick Best. I will have to check them out.
John H. Reinhardt
On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:50 PM, John H. Reinhardt
<johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
SOC is the DEC "Systems and Options Catalog" Great stuff for research on when
parts were available, what options were considered supported for systems and all around
good times. They were usually thick (200-300 pages at least in the later VAX era) and
came out quarterly (?). Would be a handful to scan, but oh so nice to have.
You mean the Option/Module List, from Dick Best? There are a number of issues of that
(1973 to 1975, and one from 1983) on Bitsavers already. An issue close to those dates is
perhaps not all that interesting; one from a significantly different date would be quite a
find.
paul
4:40 p.m.
On Mar 11, 2016, at 4:31 PM, John H. Reinhardt
<johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
On 3/11/2016 4:05 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
These were catalogs from DEC. Here's one example that I did find on Bitsavers
<https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_deccatalogtionsCatalogNov96_36196682>
There might be more of them available than I had thought...
I didn't know about the lists from Dick Best. I will have to check them out.
Sounds different then. The Option/Module List was an internal DEC document, not something
meant for outsiders to see.
paul
On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:50 PM, John H. Reinhardt
<johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
SOC is the DEC "Systems and Options Catalog" Great stuff for research on when
parts were available, what options were considered supported for systems and all around
good times. They were usually thick (200-300 pages at least in the later VAX era) and
came out quarterly (?). Would be a handful to scan, but oh so nice to have.
You mean the Option/Module List, from Dick Best? There are a number of issues of that
(1973 to 1975, and one from 1983) on Bitsavers already. An issue close to those dates is
perhaps not all that interesting; one from a significantly different date would be quite a
find.
4:49 p.m.
On 3/11/2016 4:40 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
Sounds different then. The Option/Module List was an internal DEC document, not
something meant for outsiders to see.
paul
Gotcha. The SOC were what us customers out in the wild would drool over while thinking
about systems we could build if we actually had a budget. :D
John H. Reinhardt
3:33 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
Graham
Sent: 11 March 2016 17:40
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
On 11/03/2016 16:50, "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
otherwise
How did I miss this! I could do with some older
VMS manuals! Which
version of VMS?
Dave
They're in a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited you could've taken them. I'm guessing at the
versions but it'll probably
be
VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday.
I think it was Rob that visited, I have just installed VMS 5.5 on a
MicroVax3100 which I think came from you (perhaps Rob).
There doesn't seem to be a proper set of manuals on the net anywhere so they
would be very useful.
How many feet of VMS manuals are there?
Dave
G4UGM
A
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
Sent: 11 March 2016 16:23
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
On 11 March 2016 at 06:46, Adrian Graham <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com>
wrote:
We're refitting the last unrefitted office
here and there's a full
bookcase of grey heading for the skip unless anyone wants to take
them away? Must admit in the 12 years I've worked here I didn't
realise there was a shelf of RSTS manuals!
I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic, but I've got to ask: What
version of the operating systems? And are they manuals that are
already on BitSavers, if they're not please scan them?
Regards,
Christian
--
Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
Contact information available upon request. 
3:41 p.m.
If we can arrange for the manuals to be saved I am happy to scan them in
and make them available to bitsavers. After that I am happy for them to go
to whoever wants the paper copies. Maybe at the next DEC Legacy (which it
looks like will be some time in October now)!
Regards, Mark
On 11 Mar 2016 20:33, "Dave G4UGM" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
-----Original
Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
Graham
Sent: 11 March 2016 17:40
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
On 11/03/2016 16:50, "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
otherwise
How did I miss this! I could do with some older
VMS manuals! Which
version of VMS?
Dave
They're in a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited you could've taken them. I'm guessing at
the versions but it'll probably
be
VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday.
I think it was Rob that visited, I have just installed VMS 5.5 on a
MicroVax3100 which I think came from you (perhaps Rob).
There doesn't seem to be a proper set of manuals on the net anywhere so
they
would be very useful.
How many feet of VMS manuals are there?
Dave
G4UGM
A
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
Sent: 11 March 2016 16:23
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
On 11 March 2016 at 06:46, Adrian Graham <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com>
wrote:
> We're refitting the last unrefitted office here and there's a full
> bookcase of grey heading for the skip unless anyone wants to take
> them away? Must admit in the 12 years I've worked here I didn't
> realise there was a shelf of RSTS manuals!
>
I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic, but I've got to ask: What
version of the operating systems? And are they manuals that are
already on BitSavers, if they're not please scan them?
Regards,
Christian
--
Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
Contact information available upon request.
5:59 p.m.
If you are happy to scan them (non-destructively) then that would be great! If it is not
too many shelf-feet then I would be interested in keeping at least some of them, I can
always give them to Jim Austin if they are too much.
Adrian, if you are prepared to ship them (along with the other bits and pieces we have
been talking about) I am happy to pay the p&p, although it might make more sense to
send the manuals direct to Mark.
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark
Wickens
Sent: 11 March 2016 20:42
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: RE: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
If we can arrange for the manuals to be saved I am happy to scan them in and
make them available to bitsavers. After that I am happy for them to go to
whoever wants the paper copies. Maybe at the next DEC Legacy (which it
looks like will be some time in October now)!
Regards, Mark
On 11 Mar 2016 20:33, "Dave G4UGM" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> > Adrian Graham
> > Sent: 11 March 2016 17:40
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> > <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> > Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
> > Newmarket UK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/03/2016 16:50, "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > How did I miss this! I could do with some older VMS manuals! Which
> > > version of VMS?
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> > They're in a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited
> otherwise
> > you could've taken them. I'm guessing at the versions but it'll
> > probably
> be
> > VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday.
> >
>
> I think it was Rob that visited, I have just installed VMS 5.5 on a
> MicroVax3100 which I think came from you (perhaps Rob).
> There doesn't seem to be a proper set of manuals on the net anywhere
> so they would be very useful.
> How many feet of VMS manuals are there?
>
> Dave
> G4UGM
>
>
> > A
> >
> >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> > >> Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
> > >> Sent: 11 March 2016 16:23
> > >> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> > >> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect
> > >> books, Newmarket UK
> > >>
> > >> On 11 March 2016 at 06:46, Adrian Graham
> > >> <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> We're refitting the last unrefitted office here and
there's a
> > >>> full bookcase of grey heading for the skip unless anyone wants
> > >>> to take them away? Must admit in the 12 years I've worked here
I
> > >>> didn't realise there was a shelf of RSTS manuals!
> > >>>
> > >> I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic, but I've got to ask:
What
> > >> version of the operating systems? And are they manuals that are
> > >> already on BitSavers, if they're not please scan them?
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Christian
> > >> --
> > >> Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
> > >> STCKON08DS0
> > >> Contact information available upon request.
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Adrian/Witchy
> > Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
> > Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
> > collection?
> >
>
>
>
6:07 p.m.
I have a new scanner and am happy to do some scanning as well. Perhaps we could split the
work up...
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Jarratt
Sent: 11 March 2016 22:59
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: RE: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
If you are happy to scan them (non-destructively) then that would be great!
If it is not too many shelf-feet then I would be interested in keeping at least
some of them, I can always give them to Jim Austin if they are too much.
Adrian, if you are prepared to ship them (along with the other bits and pieces
we have been talking about) I am happy to pay the p&p, although it might
make more sense to send the manuals direct to Mark.
Regards
Rob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> Wickens
> Sent: 11 March 2016 20:42
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: RE: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
> Newmarket UK
>
> If we can arrange for the manuals to be saved I am happy to scan them
> in and make them available to bitsavers. After that I am happy for
> them to go to whoever wants the paper copies. Maybe at the next DEC
> Legacy (which it looks like will be some time in October now)!
>
> Regards, Mark
> On 11 Mar 2016 20:33, "Dave G4UGM" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> > > Adrian Graham
> > > Sent: 11 March 2016 17:40
> > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> > > <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> > > Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
> > > Newmarket UK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/03/2016 16:50, "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > > How did I miss this! I could do with some older VMS manuals!
> > > > Which version of VMS?
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > >
> > > They're in a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited
> > otherwise
> > > you could've taken them. I'm guessing at the versions but
it'll
> > > probably
> > be
> > > VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday.
> > >
> >
> > I think it was Rob that visited, I have just installed VMS 5.5 on a
> > MicroVax3100 which I think came from you (perhaps Rob).
> > There doesn't seem to be a proper set of manuals on the net anywhere
> > so they would be very useful.
> > How many feet of VMS manuals are there?
> >
> > Dave
> > G4UGM
> >
> >
> > > A
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
> > > >> Of Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
> > > >> Sent: 11 March 2016 16:23
> > > >> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> > > >> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> > > >> Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect
> > > >> books, Newmarket UK
> > > >>
> > > >> On 11 March 2016 at 06:46, Adrian Graham
> > > >> <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>> We're refitting the last unrefitted office here and
there's a
> > > >>> full bookcase of grey heading for the skip unless anyone
wants
> > > >>> to take them away? Must admit in the 12 years I've worked
here
> > > >>> I didn't realise there was a shelf of RSTS manuals!
> > > >>>
> > > >> I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic, but I've got to
ask:
> > > >> What version of the operating systems? And are they manuals
> > > >> that are already on BitSavers, if they're not please scan
them?
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> Christian
> > > >> --
> > > >> Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
> > > >> STCKON08DS0
> > > >> Contact information available upon request.
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Adrian/Witchy
> > > Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
> > > Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
> > > collection?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
7:55 p.m.
On 11/03/16 23:07, Dave Wade wrote:
I have a new scanner and am happy to do some scanning
as well. Perhaps we could split the work up...
Non-destructively scanning DECdirect catalogues or SOCs would be very
time-consuming,
although if you have access to one of those copiers that is intended to
scan books and can go
right to the edge, then that would produce good results.
I don't have one of those ... :-(
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Antonio Carlini
arcarlini at iee.org
14 Mar
14 Mar
6:12 a.m.
New subject: Fwd: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books, Newmarket UK
Morning folks,
Here's a pic of the bookshelves: http://f0p.co.uk/greyWall.jpg
Apologies if it's landscape but it looks ok FastStone image viewer and
firefox off my webserver.
VMS manuals are V5.0, RSTS is V10 (1990) and there's 3 RSX-11M V4 as well
as RSX DECNET.
Cheers
Adrian
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
Date: 11 March 2016 at 17:39
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <
cctalk at classiccmp.org>
On 11/03/2016 16:50, "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
--
--
adrian/witchy
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest home computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
How did I miss this! I could do with some older VMS
manuals! Which
version of
VMS?
Dave
They're in a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited otherwise
you could've taken them. I'm guessing at the versions but it'll probably be
VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday.
A
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
Christian
> Gauger-Cosgrove
> Sent: 11 March 2016 16:23
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
> Newmarket UK
>
> On 11 March 2016 at 06:46, Adrian Graham <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> We're refitting the last unrefitted office here and there's a full
>> bookcase of grey heading for the skip unless anyone wants to take them
>> away? Must admit in the 12 years I've worked here I didn't realise
>> there was a shelf of RSTS manuals!
>>
> I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic, but I've got to ask: What version
of
the
operating systems? And are they manuals that are already on BitSavers, if
they're not please scan them?
Regards,
Christian
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STCKON08DS0
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7:40 a.m.
Adrian,
What is the split? So how many VMS, how many RSX?
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
Graham
Sent: 14 March 2016 10:13
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Fwd: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
Morning folks,
Here's a pic of the bookshelves: http://f0p.co.uk/greyWall.jpg
Apologies if it's landscape but it looks ok FastStone image viewer and firefox
off my webserver.
VMS manuals are V5.0, RSTS is V10 (1990) and there's 3 RSX-11M V4 as well as
RSX DECNET.
Cheers
Adrian
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
Date: 11 March 2016 at 17:39
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <
cctalk at classiccmp.org>
On 11/03/2016 16:50, "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
--
--
adrian/witchy
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest home computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
How did I miss this! I could do with some older
VMS manuals! Which
version of
VMS?
Dave
They're in a sales office and I forgot about them when you visited otherwise
you could've taken them. I'm guessing at the versions but it'll probably be
VMS 5.5 and RSTS4 but I can check on Monday.
A
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
Christian
> Gauger-Cosgrove
> Sent: 11 March 2016 16:23
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
> Newmarket UK
>
> On 11 March 2016 at 06:46, Adrian Graham <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> We're refitting the last unrefitted office here and there's a full
>> bookcase of grey heading for the skip unless anyone wants to take
>> them away? Must admit in the 12 years I've worked here I didn't
>> realise there was a shelf of RSTS manuals!
>>
> I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic, but I've got to ask: What
> version
of
the
operating systems? And are they manuals that are already on
BitSavers, if they're not please scan them?
Regards,
Christian
--
Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
Contact information available upon request.
7:50 a.m.
On 14 March 2016 at 11:40, Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
Adrian,
What is the split? So how many VMS, how many RSX?
Hi Dave,
The RSX ones are the orange ones in the picture, I count 11 RSTS and the
rest are VMS5.
--
adrian/witchy
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest home computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
9:15 a.m.
On 14 March 2016 at 11:50 Adrian Graham <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,
The RSX ones are the orange ones in the picture, I count 11 RSTS and the
rest are VMS5.
The bottom row (and maybe the one above) look like they might not be VMS, but I
can't make out the titles.
Antonio
12:22 p.m.
The picture is just a bit too fuzzy for me to work out how many shelf-feet the RSTS and
RSX manuals take up.
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
Graham
Sent: 14 March 2016 11:51
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
On 14 March 2016 at 11:40, Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
Adrian,
What is the split? So how many VMS, how many RSX?
Hi Dave,
The RSX ones are the orange ones in the picture, I count 11 RSTS and the rest
are VMS5.
--
adrian/witchy
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest home computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
12:43 p.m.
That?s a lot of manuals. I am OK with scanning them, but then they would have to go.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Jarratt
Sent: 14 March 2016 16:22
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: RE: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
Newmarket UK
The picture is just a bit too fuzzy for me to work out how many shelf-feet the
RSTS and RSX manuals take up.
Regards
Rob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> Adrian Graham
> Sent: 14 March 2016 11:51
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: VMS/RSTS/RSX manuals available, SOC, DECdirect books,
> Newmarket UK
>
> On 14 March 2016 at 11:40, Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Adrian,
> > What is the split? So how many VMS, how many RSX?
> >
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> The RSX ones are the orange ones in the picture, I count 11 RSTS and
> the rest are VMS5.
>
> --
> adrian/witchy
> Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest home computer collection?
> www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
10:26 a.m.
On Mar 14, 2016, at 6:12 AM, Adrian Graham <witchy
at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:
Morning folks,
Here's a pic of the bookshelves: http://f0p.co.uk/greyWall.jpg
Apologies if it's landscape but it looks ok FastStone image viewer and
firefox off my webserver.
VMS manuals are V5.0, RSTS is V10 (1990) ...
Bitsavers has only a quick reference guide for V10, so this would make a very good
addition. V10 is the last RSTS release. It looks like the last fairly complete manual
set on Bitsavers is all the way back to V6, which is very different indeed.
paul
11:23 a.m.
On 3/14/2016 10:26 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
I would PayPal someone a few $$$ as incentive to get the RSTS/E saved and scanned. Perhaps
others would donate?
John H. Reinhardt
On Mar 14, 2016, at 6:12 AM, Adrian Graham
<witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:
Morning folks,
Here's a pic of the bookshelves: http://f0p.co.uk/greyWall.jpg
Apologies if it's landscape but it looks ok FastStone image viewer and
firefox off my webserver.
VMS manuals are V5.0, RSTS is V10 (1990) ...
Bitsavers has only a quick reference guide for V10, so this would make a very good
addition. V10 is the last RSTS release. It looks like the last fairly complete manual
set on Bitsavers is all the way back to V6, which is very different indeed.
paul
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