4 Apr
2002
4 Apr
'02
9:30 a.m.
From: Richard Erlacher
You guys have too much free time ... and the grammar and syntax in this
thing
are all screwed up. "Thou" requires "hast" rather than
"have." Thine =
yours. Thy = your.
Dick
So, it should read...
"... Thou hast just received the Amish Virus.
Since we do not have electricity nor computers,
thou art on the honor system. Please delete all
of thy files.
Thank thee.
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
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Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001
Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash
Joe wrote:
>
>
> AMISH VIRUS:
>
> Thou have just received the Amish Virus.
> Since we do not have electricity nor computers,
> thou art on the honor system. Please delete all
> of thine files.
>
> Thank thee.
5 Apr
5 Apr
12:55 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
Crashed computer boots local man into jail:
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/news/archive/local_3204626.shtml
Short story: A shop had five atempts to get a new PC to work,
they still failed, so the man took the computer in a 6th time,
put it on the floor and smashed it with a sledge hammer.
Wisconsin seams to be a place for unusual people.
Gruss
H.
--
VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
2:12 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
At 01:55 PM 4/5/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Crashed computer boots local man into jail:
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/news/archive/local_3204626.shtml
Short story: A shop had five atempts to get a new PC to work,
they still failed, so the man took the computer in a 6th time,
put it on the floor and smashed it with a sledge hammer.
Wisconsin seams to be a place for unusual people.
Uhm, thanks! :-) But it was a computer from Gateway!
- John
4:38 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
John Foust wrote:
At 01:55 PM 4/5/2002 +0200, you wrote:
not reading the story ... if he paid for the computer is his to what he
likes with it, not go to jail.
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
Crashed computer boots local man into jail:
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/news/archive/local_3204626.shtml
Short story: A shop had five atempts to get a new PC to work,
they still failed, so the man took the computer in a 6th time,
put it on the floor and smashed it with a sledge hammer.
Wisconsin seams to be a place for unusual people.
Uhm, thanks! :-) But it was a computer from Gateway!
- John 
4 Apr
4 Apr
10:28 p.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Ben Franchuk wrote:
I agree, but I guess it's against the law to do this in an impromptu
public forum (i.e. the computer shop where he purchased the machine) which
is what landed him in trouble.
I personally feel that this is a valid form of customer feedback. A bit
extreme perhaps, but valid.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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At 01:55 PM
4/5/2002 +0200, you wrote:
not reading the story ... if he paid for the computer is his to what he
likes with it, not go to jail. Crashed computer boots local man into jail:
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/news/archive/local_3204626.shtml
Short story: A shop had five atempts to get a new PC to work,
they still failed, so the man took the computer in a 6th time,
put it on the floor and smashed it with a sledge hammer.
Wisconsin seams to be a place for unusual people.
Uhm, thanks! :-) But it was a computer from Gateway!
- John 
5 Apr
5 Apr
8:40 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
I agree, but I guess it's against the law to do
this in an impromptu
public forum (i.e. the computer shop where he purchased the machine) which
is what landed him in trouble.
A number of years ago, a guy burned a cardboard sculpture on the sidewalk
in front of the whitehouse. The cops arrested him for "arson", and a
representative (my brother) from the US attorney's office had to explain
to them that it did NOT qualify as "arson" and that they'd have to figure
out a different charge.
I personally feel that this is a valid form of
customer feedback. A bit
extreme perhaps, but valid.
for Gateway, maybe not extreme enough
5:03 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
At 08:38 AM 4/5/2002 -0700, you wrote:
not reading the story ... if he paid for the computer
is his to what he
likes with it, not go to jail.
He was only charged with disorderly conduct, not theft
or destruction of someone else's property.
- John
5:24 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
> not reading the story ... if he paid for the
computer is his to what he
> likes with it, not go to jail.
But he smashed it, with a sledgehammer, in the lobbey
area of a Gateway
Country Store :-)
Shouldn't this be considered as ecological correct disposal ?
--
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6:07 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
> not
reading the story ... if he paid for the computer is his to what he
> likes with it, not go to jail.
But he smashed it, with a sledgehammer, in the
lobbey area of a Gateway
Country Store :-)
Shouldn't this be considered as ecological correct disposal ? 
7:12 a.m.
New subject: More "Stuff"
In the next several weeks (months?) I'll be paring down the collection
of "stuff" that I have no interest in collecting, or I have duplicates
of. My tendency is to want to put it on Yahoo with a 3 day auction since
evryone would have a chance to see it and decide if they want it. But
for right now, I'll just list it here.
Everthing is plus shipping/insurance. Generally I prefer to ship via
USPS Priority Mail for things that weigh less than 4 pounds since I
already have the boxes and it is far easier for me :). For things under
1 pound, Priority Mail is $3.50.
$5.00 - Coleco Power Supply for Coleco Vision
$5.00 ea - 100 MB SCSI Hard Drives removed from service (approximately
10 left)
$5.00 - VTech PreComputer 1000 w/ General Knowledge Cartridge
$100.00 - Origins of Digital Computers, Randell. Has papers by Babbage,
Zuse, Von Neuman, Aiken,
and other pioneers, 2nd Edition, OOP (Out Of Print)
$5.00 - TurboGrafx 16 Hucards, "Nerd Blasters" and "R-Type", No way
to
test them.
$5.00 - Odyssey2 w/ power supply, game controls, and "Speedsay,
Spin-out, Crypto-logic" cartridge
I believe this works, but I haven't tested it to make sure.
5:30 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
And thusly Chad Fernandez spake:
Ben Franchuk wrote:
I wonder if he had just seen Office Space? ;-) ...
Cheers,
Bryan
not reading the story ... if he paid for the
computer is his to what he
likes with it, not go to jail.
But he smashed it, with a sledgehammer, in the lobbey area of a Gateway
Country Store :-)
5:38 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
At 11:11 AM 05/04/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Ben Franchuk wrote:
Good thing he didn't work over the monitor, they would have nailed
him for a terrorist.
Cheers
Charles E. Fox Video Production
793 Argyle Rd.
Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out the "Camcorder Kindergarten"
at http://chasfoxvideo.com
not reading the story ... if he paid for the
computer is his to what he
likes with it, not go to jail.
But he smashed it, with a sledgehammer, in the lobbey area of a Gateway
Country Store :-)
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA 
5:29 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
Why not read the story, instead?
"They jailed him, and he was released later Monday after posting a $150 bond
for disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor charge."
--John
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From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Ben Franchuk
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:39 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: OT, but what a relief
John Foust wrote:
At 01:55 PM 4/5/2002 +0200, you wrote:
not reading the story ... if he paid for the computer is his to what he
likes with it, not go to jail.
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html Crashed computer boots local man into jail:
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/news/archive/local_3204626.shtml
Short story: A shop had five atempts to get a new PC to work,
they still failed, so the man took the computer in a 6th time,
put it on the floor and smashed it with a sledge hammer.
Wisconsin seams to be a place for unusual people.
Uhm, thanks! :-) But it was a computer from Gateway!
- John
8:31 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, John Chris Wren wrote:
Why not read the story, instead?
Because my web-browser is not on the same machine as my e-mail.
Netscrape/Internet Exploiter seem to want at least 386, and Lynx doesn't
handle frames and the rest of the modern crap very well.
> not reading the story ... if he paid for the
computer is his to what he
> likes with it, not go to jail.
There could be a few more factors, such as
where he smashed it, if not on
his own property, and whether any of the store staff were holding the
machine when he smashed it, etc.
11:12 p.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
Because my web-browser is not on the same machine as
my e-mail.
Netscrape/Internet Exploiter seem to want at least 386, and Lynx doesn't
handle frames and the rest of the modern crap very well.
Find and download w3m instead of lynx. It works MUCH better (and handles
frames!)
You can also try "links" (not as good as w3m in my opinion but it has some
strong points).
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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7:11 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
Ben Franchuk wrote:
John Foust wrote:
I know a couple of girls whose daddy once took his TV out on the front
lawn and commenced to blast it to smithereens with one a them thar evul
shotguns. Concerned neighbors called the law. When they arrived, he
declaimed, "It's my damned TV and I can do what I want with it in my own
god-damned $@!%# yard!" Since there was no law prohibiting discharge of
fireams in that town at that time, there wasn't much they felt inclined
to do about it. At least not with him standing there holding a weapon of
mass destruction.
Now, Pops is an ornery old cuss, and I've had to fight back the
temptation to deck him a time or two, which in retrospect was a mistake,
fighting it back, I mean, but he might have spent a night or two in
jail, at least, if he had taken the set to a TV station to perform his
little exorcism. Especially nowadays.
The guy in Wisconsin feels it's worth it, and really all he was doing
was expressing himself, maybe in a disconcerting way, but he's getting
off light, I think. I'll take that as a good sign.
jbdigriz
At 01:55 PM 4/5/2002 +0200, you wrote:
not reading the story ... if he paid for the computer is his to what he
likes with it, not go to jail.
Crashed computer boots local man into jail:
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/news/archive/local_3204626.shtml
Short story: A shop had five atempts to get a new PC to work,
they still failed, so the man took the computer in a 6th time,
put it on the floor and smashed it with a sledge hammer.
Wisconsin seams to be a place for unusual people.
Uhm, thanks! :-) But it was a computer from Gateway!
- John 
7:37 a.m.
New subject: [Way OT] AS/400.....
Is there anyone on the list that could either sell me or give me access to
an AS/400?
I've got a bunch of folks from my corporate HQ feeding me all sorts of odd
little excuses and I want to "see for myself" on an AS/400 with RPG IV(?)
installed on it.
For instance, they make a big deal about me sending a CSV file to them
that has quote marks around the data in each field. What's so bloody hard
about stripping quotes off of thanks? Hell I could do that before I could
tie my own damn shoes.
Please reply by direct mail so others aren't even futher disturbed by my
plea. :)
g.
8:20 a.m.
New subject: [Way OT] AS/400.....
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Gene Buckle wrote:
Is there anyone on the list that could either sell me
or give me access to
an AS/400?
Gene, there are a couple of AS/400 in the warehouse where I work.
They are the older beige deskside boxes, they look intact, and I can get
you the model #s next week. My boss there is a little weird about
pricing, so they may run from $.12 to $.50 per pound, depending on his
mood. I'm guessing that would top out at a possible $80 or so, plus
shipping. There's a box of documentation there that he'll probably
throw in.
I know nothing at all about AS/400 and don't want to learn, so it's a
grab bag from your end. I can and will see if they'll boot to a console
if you can provide startup (and shutdown) instructions. I'll run
whatever diags are accessible.
If you're interested, I'd need you to arrange shipping _before_ I pick
it/them up from the shop. I don't mind dealing with it, but I'm totally
out of room to store it.
Drag that you have to buy equipment and learn an OS just to call your
"colleagues" on their crap.
Doc
8:49 a.m.
New subject: [Way OT] AS/400.....
Drat. That was supposed to be off-list.
Sorry, y'all.
Doc
7:46 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
"James B. DiGriz" wrote:
Ben Franchuk wrote:
Now was the computer under warranty at the time.!?
Funny I took a hammer to my VCR ( At home ) since I said "give me my
tape back
or else". It did not listen too well, but I did get my tape OUT.
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
John Foust wrote:
I know a couple of girls whose daddy once took his TV out on the front
lawn and commenced to blast it to smithereens with one a them thar evul
shotguns. Concerned neighbors called the law. When they arrived, he
declaimed, "It's my damned TV and I can do what I want with it in my own
god-damned $@!%# yard!" Since there was no law prohibiting discharge of
fireams in that town at that time, there wasn't much they felt inclined
to do about it. At least not with him standing there holding a weapon of
mass destruction. At 01:55 PM 4/5/2002 +0200, you wrote:
not reading the story ... if he paid for the computer is his to what he
likes with it, not go to jail.
Crashed computer boots local man into jail:
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/news/archive/local_3204626.shtml
Short story: A shop had five atempts to get a new PC to work,
they still failed, so the man took the computer in a 6th time,
put it on the floor and smashed it with a sledge hammer.
Wisconsin seams to be a place for unusual people.
Uhm, thanks! :-) But it was a computer from Gateway!
- John
8:35 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
Ben Franchuk wrote:
Now was the computer under warranty at the time.!?
Funny I took a hammer to my VCR ( At home ) since I said "give me my
tape back
or else". It did not listen too well, but I did get my tape OUT.
I don't think it is anymore, unless Gateway wants to take advantage of
the opportunity to offset bad PR.
The TV was working fine. It was working only too well, as far as Pops
was concerned. :-) I know the feeling.
jbdigriz
12:53 p.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
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5:24 p.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
Tony Duell wrote:
I have had the cover off for over a year fiddling with that mechanism.
Anyway I gave it to somebody I know who repairs old vcr's for parts.
I got a DVD for the new stuff.
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
Funny I took a hammer to my VCR ( At home ) since
I said "give me my
tape back
or else". It did not listen too well, but I did get my tape OUT.
I've always found removing the VCR's cover and twiddling the loading arm
drive and cassette holder (basket) drive to be a quicker and easier way
of getting the tape out, with less risk of damage to the tape (and to the
VCR for that matter).
-tony
9:32 a.m.
New subject: OT, but what a relief
Chad Fernandez wrote:
A gun isn't exactly a weapon of mass
destruction.... it's pretty localized.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
James B. DiGriz wrote:
I felt maybe ol' "molten iron" Erlacher would appreciate the hyperbole. :-)
jbdigriz
At least not with him standing there holding a
weapon of mass
destruction.
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