14 Jun
2009
14 Jun
'09
9:49 p.m.
About that very high price: I think that may be a joke. DtCyber
certainly always used free and open source. And it still lives in the
FreeBSD ports tree. It's at least possible that this was done as a
move of protest against BT Consulting's move to stop granting free (or
even reasonably priced) hobbyist licenses for antique CDC software...
It really is a shame that the only company that treated the hobbyist
use of its old platforms as a good thing, was DEC. It's just a miracle
that HP is still allowing things like the VMS hobby license and the
36-bit hobby license to continue. If that ended, we'd be stuck the IBM
PD-era stuff as the only legally emulatable big iron :(
14 Jun
14 Jun
11:19 p.m.
Michael Kerpan wrote:
About that very high price: I think that may be a
joke. DtCyber
certainly always used free and open source. And it still lives in the
FreeBSD ports tree.
The version there is VERY old. Tom decided to not make later versions
available. Sadly, this has resulted in many forks of the last available
source base. I wonder if the Cray/Cyber group would have any luck with
BT granting use of cyber 70 class software for non-commercial use. Right
now there is no generally available software other than Chippewa to run
on it.
It really is a shame that the only company that
treated the hobbyist
use of its old platforms as a good thing, was DEC. It's just a miracle
that HP is still allowing things like the VMS hobby license and the
36-bit hobby license to continue.
With VMS support going offshore, I wonder how long that will last.
Thank Bob Supnik for the DEC hobby licensing.
HP has been very supportive of CHM's efforts to preserve their product's
software. There are several other agreements similar to the one we negotiated
for the HP211x/2100 software in the works.
11:43 p.m.
On 14 Jun 2009 at 16:19, Al Kossow wrote:
The version there is VERY old. Tom decided to not make
later versions
available. Sadly, this has resulted in many forks of the last
available source base. I wonder if the Cray/Cyber group would have any
luck with BT granting use of cyber 70 class software for
non-commercial use. Right now there is no generally available software
other than Chippewa to run on it.
Golly, COS was old when I was fooling with the things. It mostly
survived in relics like EDITSYM for COSY source libraries.
Purdue had their own version of MACE for the 6500; I wonder if it
exists anywhere? If so, it might make an adequate substitute for
SCOPE/KRONOS/NOSBE/NOS as something to run that's later than COS.
I wonder if LRL still has the 6000 code for Octopus. Or if it's
still classified. But then, that's nothing like anything that ever
came out of Arden Hills.
--Chuck
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