19 Dec
2000
19 Dec
'00
8:24 p.m.
Hello all!
I'm a proud owner of two 102's and I just found a VT-100 (sans keyboard) and
all of them have the same cosmetic problem ie. they're yellow. Different
shades of yellow, one is mildly yellow, one is dark yellow etc.
So, can anyone tell what was the original color (of the case, in case you
didn't figure that out from my pretty poor English) in either approximated
terms ("eye blinding white") or in something like Pantone:)
I'd like to paint one of those VT's to get it as close as possible to the
original color (I know you were thinking about flames and stuff when you saw
the subject line. I did) I just don't know the correct shade.
Re: computers and movies
I think that Terminator II had a big bunch of HP 7925's blown up, they
were those dishwasher sized disk drives. And WarGames had a couple
of Televideo 950's (VT-100 like case but narrower). Does anyone know
anything about the vector graphics used for big screens in the war room ?
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jht
20 Dec
20 Dec
1:05 a.m.
Hello all!
I'm a proud owner of two 102's and I just found a VT-100 (sans keyboard) and
all of them have the same cosmetic problem ie. they're yellow. Different
shades of yellow, one is mildly yellow, one is dark yellow etc.
So, can anyone tell what was the original color (of the case, in case you
didn't figure that out from my pretty poor English) in either approximated
terms ("eye blinding white") or in something like Pantone:)
I'd like to paint one of those VT's to get it as close as possible to the
original color (I know you were thinking about flames and stuff when you saw
the subject line. I did) I just don't know the correct shade.
Re: computers and movies
I think that Terminator II had a big bunch of HP 7925's blown up, they
were those dishwasher sized disk drives. And WarGames had a couple
of Televideo 950's (VT-100 like case but narrower). Does anyone know
anything about the vector graphics used for big screens in the war room ?
--
jht
The real color on the VT100 was pretty much the color of ceiling white
house paint.
However, the yellow occurred pretty quickly on them and on DECwriters.
Cleaning with a paste of an mildly abrasive cleaner and water usually does
it for a while.
Bill
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2:54 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:05:55AM -0500, Bill Pechter wrote:
The real color on the VT100 was pretty much the color of ceiling white
house paint.
However, the yellow occurred pretty quickly on them and on DECwriters.
Cleaning with a paste of an mildly abrasive cleaner and water usually does
it for a while.
Yep, I have a yellow DECWriter too. I've tried cleaning one of the VT's but to
no avail. I found a DECdirect catalog from 1983 with color pictures so soon
I'm off to the paint shop. I also found a working Osborne 1 without
boot disks, so now I'm in search of those + kermit as well.
One school in these areas used CP/M in education at least to 1992...
Visiotek machines if I remember correctly.
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jht
8:16 p.m.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 03:54:36PM +0200, Jarkko Hermanni Teppo wrote:
I also found a working Osborne 1 without
boot disks, so now I'm in search of those + kermit as well.
Thanks to all who replied ! I'm in constant amazement of how this list
comes through when you need help, probably the wisest thing (internetwise)
I've done was joining this list:)
Anyway, the Osborne has the following ports (from left to right):
Modem, 9-pin D male
RS-232, DB25 female
IEEE-488 card edge connector
Keyboard via a coiled cable
Brightness and contrast knobs
EXT video with a "Do not remove while power is on"-dongle
Reset button
Battery, 9-ping D male
RCA phono jack with no markings, I presume this is for video
Now I need to dig up my 5.25" drives and try to write the disks.
After I'm finished with setting the Osborne up I'll try to tackle
with an ADM-3A with Retrographics RG-512 graphics expansion.
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jht
21 Dec
21 Dec
7:58 a.m.
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Jarkko Hermanni Teppo wrote:
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 03:54:36PM +0200, Jarkko
Hermanni Teppo wrote:
The RCA jack suggests that it is equipped for 80 column display. This
normally indicates double-density disks also. Good catch!
- don
I also found a working Osborne 1 without
boot disks, so now I'm in search of those + kermit as well.
Thanks to all who replied ! I'm in constant amazement of how this list
comes through when you need help, probably the wisest thing (internetwise)
I've done was joining this list:)
Anyway, the Osborne has the following ports (from left to right):
Modem, 9-pin D male
RS-232, DB25 female
IEEE-488 card edge connector
Keyboard via a coiled cable
Brightness and contrast knobs
EXT video with a "Do not remove while power is on"-dongle
Reset button
Battery, 9-ping D male
RCA phono jack with no markings, I presume this is for video Now I need to dig up my 5.25" drives and try to
write the disks.
After I'm finished with setting the Osborne up I'll try to tackle
with an ADM-3A with Retrographics RG-512 graphics expansion.
--
jht
20 Dec
20 Dec
5:30 a.m.
Re: computers and movies
I think that Terminator II had a big bunch of HP 7925's blown up, they
were those dishwasher sized disk drives. And WarGames had a couple
of Televideo 950's (VT-100 like case but narrower). Does anyone know
anything about the vector graphics used for big screens in the war room ?
Here's a bit of trivia you just reminded me of. The computer display in
the side of the computer in WarGames (WOPR I think) a VIC-20. You
can tell by the 22 column display.
g.
22 Dec
22 Dec
2:42 a.m.
I usually use an abrasive to clean yellowed plastic. Scotchbrite pads and
Ajax work for me.
Your English is very good Jarkko! Your vocabulary and composition are
excellent. You even use your articles (the, a, an) without misusing or
overusing them. Many people with English as a second language simply give
up on the articles and speak or write without them - Yakov Smirnoff ;-).
While it is possible to speak well in English without articles, you'd come
off sounding William Shatner. "Use Bleach With Green Pads Scotty!" as
opposed to 'Use a green pad and some bleach'.....
Since your Ajax and Scotchbrite names are probably in Finnish, the first
is a (usually) green, flat, fibrous, abrasive pad used to wash dishes
with. The second is a household, powdered abrasive sometimes called
'scouring powder'. I like to use the kind with bleach as it helps whiten
the plastic.
This works particularly well on textured and matte surfaces, but might
dull a shiny surface.Try a test patch in an inconspicuous area first. My
premis in using abrasives is simply that the outer layer of plastic is
trashed beyond rejuvination. Removing it gently with a polishing method
removes this exposing fresh new skin.
Regards,
Jeff
In <20001220092405.B11959(a)loisto.uwasa.fi>fi>, on 12/22/00
at 08:42 AM, Jarkko Hermanni Teppo <jate(a)uwasa.fi> said:
I'm a proud owner of two 102's and I just found
a VT-100 (sans keyboard)
and all of them have the same cosmetic problem ie. they're yellow.
Different shades of yellow, one is mildly yellow, one is dark yellow etc.
So, can anyone tell what was the original color (of the
case, in case you
didn't figure that out from my pretty poor English) in either
approximated terms ("eye blinding white") or in something like Pantone:)
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828-277-5959
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7:33 a.m.
In my experience there are two kinds of yellow, stain from cigarette smoke
etc., and sun yellowing. Stains often do clean up, sun yellowing never.
I've tried every cleaning pad, cleanser, scrub powder I can find short of a
power sander, and when I'm done its a shiny clean, often smooth, yellow.
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