Good catch, especially uucp lists and maps seem very relevant here. All paths go through mimsy :-) later mimsy.umd.edu so... a late 80's UUCP map obviously figured heavily in the simulated networking. By necessity: any retelling of 80's era networking will have so much source information available from UUCP mapping projects and Usenet and mailing lists, than any other more closed sections of the network. (BITNET and later NSFNet are also up there in terms of preserved message/map volume but by no means as huge). It's a little biased but by no means wrong (especially considering my link to the network was largely uucp back then too... I can easily dig up usenet groups from the 80's that I overlapped with, but the bitnet-based listserv's that were popular back then are far harder for me to find references to.) I suspect Henry Spencer's preservation of usenet archive tapes at utzoo will figure heavily in any retellings in the future. History is written by the victors, it seems so! If victors == usenet nerds :-) Tim.