For all who don't remember the difference (Memory ? whats that ?), try it yourself _in_you_used_ working environment, just put your socket 7 board to the lowest possible multiplicator and, if possible, the bus speed down to the lowest possible speed) - and just see - I was forced to try this last week because of an temperature problem - I put a 233 K6 down to 100 MHz (multiplier x2, bus clock 50 MHz) - and it was awfull to start any applicaton And that was still the same computer - just only around half the speed. Word took something like 30 seconds to open ... It is amazing, how fast we forget, or maybe only how easy we accept some speed gain as given and still rant how slow it is. Gruss H. P.S.: For network services I still depend on two 486-133 computers since years, and they asre still fast enough :) -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK