On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 21:35, Tony Duell wrote: There is no better home CD player than the Philips CD104. Period. It's as old as I am and it's still trucking. It's only ever been repaired once in its life - it's as old as I am and it's still trucking. Brilliant. Seconded. Alex -- Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance like no-one is watching.

"Tony Duell" <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> said: of But You seem to have nearly every service manual or schematic sheet known to man... I'm still looking for a manual set for my Gould OS1100A oscilloscope... *sigh* Mass produced electronic equipment always seems to have at least one dry joint on at least one board... If I had a service manual for my scope, I'd probably have it fixed in a few hours... From what I've seen of it with the cover loosened, it's a complete ratsnest in there... Anyone got a Gould OS1100 or OS1100A Service Manual? What about a User's Manual? Gould service docs seem to be like gold dust. Gould no longer have copies and the only company I know who has a copy wants ?80 for it - and that's a photocopy (!) What about dry electrolytics? They seem to go pretty often... The high temperature electrolytics seem to last a fair while, though. Later. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/

There's one up just now in L.A. with a buy it now of $25. John A. count the minutes

I've got a 'working' ADM-3A on the East Coast, its a blue-colored one if that matters. Jeff Hellige wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Tony Duell wrote: Veering a little OT (though the equipment is indeed 10 years old), my current gripe with Philips/Magnavox is the lack of printed service literature. A few months ago I inquired about a service manual for one of those "cheap" VCRs, and was told they _now_ only send out literature on cdrom to their "authorized" service centers. Whats worse, is that I think I own at least 4 different (but similar) Phillips/Magnavox VCRs... Back to something more on topic... This last week at auction, I picked up one of the oldest cd writers I've ever seen, which is ironically made by Philips. It appears to have a SCSI interface, and seems to be in good shape physically. If there is any interest, I'll update the list once I get a chance to inspect it further and test it out. Another item I picked up in the same lot was (yet another) Pioneer DRM-604X cdrom changer (I collect 'em ;). It had the magazine jammed in it, and when I broke the unit down for inspection, I found that whoever previously "repaired" it, had left their test "JIG" (as marked) optical pickup assembly installed. The assembly was missing 2 of the 4 leveling springs, and the two that were installed were in the wrong places (two different tensions are used). One of the springs is also bent out of shape. The disc table motor's connector has a small crack in the shell surrounding the pins. There is also visible wear and tear on the flat cable for the optical pickup, where it connects to the main board. Based on what I found, it appears that a service shop accidentally left their "JIG" optical assembly installed when they shipped it back after repairs. Since it had leveling problems due to the missing and improperly installed springs, it eventually jammed up. I picked up lots of other nice bits of older hardware, but I think most of it would still be considered OT for now. -Toth

On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Jeff Hellige wrote: The model printed on the front of the unit is CDD 521, and has a sticker on the cd tray with the printing 'CDD521 upgraded'. It is an external drive, and looks very much like a component-style cd player. A sticker on the rear of the unit states 'Type: CDD521/10', and shows it was made in Aug 1993. Philips was indeed the original developer of the compact disc. Going OT a little again, that is one of the reasons they are currently quite unhappy with the "copy protected" (defective) cds various record companies are marketing to unsuspecting consumers. -Toth

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Tony Duell wrote: I actually tried that with one local shop, and they flat out said no. Its quite possible that the Philips/Magnavox service docs can't be printed (via normal means, anyway), but only viewed from those cdroms. If they can be printed, its possible that the service shop has a limit as to how many pages they can print (or even view) from those discs. -Toth

If memory serves (probably not), this is likely the second or third CD-R (after Sony) writer made. The first was made by Yamaha in a 2U rack-mount format, and cost a good $43,000. It was intended mostly for audio work but could make data discs as well. The Philips was the first (or second) writer intended mainly for data, though. I've got a Sony CDU-100 here that my company bought in mid-1986. This was the first CD-ROM reader available, though the much smaller and cooler Philips drive came out very shortly after. These drives are built like tanks, unlike the year-later Hitachi's that were very popular due to their low price. The Hitachi's also were a p.i.t.a. because of their drivers' software timing loops that broke every time the PC went from 4 to 6 to 8 to 12 Mhz.

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