18 Jan
2002
18 Jan
'02
5:17 p.m.
The postscript level 2 and the memory card have been claimed. Apparently there
are quite a few people still using HP III's out there ;)
-Lawrence LeMay
18 Jan
18 Jan
6:10 p.m.
--- Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote:
The postscript level 2 and the memory card have been
claimed. Apparently
there
are quite a few people still using HP III's out there ;)
I've got a IIID, but it already had a 2Mb card and PS cart (and AppleTalk
I/O board) when I got it for $15 (uni surplus). It needed new transfer
pads and pickup rollers, but it's great now... a little slow, but the
duplexer works. It's on an external HP JetDirect EX Plus ($10 at a tent
sale), but I'd like an internal Ethernet board... all I have is a
strange 3rd-party Novell JetLAN card.
-ethan
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6:36 p.m.
Did you ever get the JetLan board to work? I've got one, but have given up on
making it work under WIndows. Oddly enough, I think it actually goes pretty
automatically into the WIndows network configuration, but ... not knowing, I
can't say whether it really works in that scheme. One of these days ...
Presently, its hooked directly to this computer, since it's only 10 feet of
cable away.
What is it that you believe/know the internal ethernet board will do for you
that the JetLan won't? I've never been able to find out what advantage the HP
product offers. The JetLan board, BTW, isn't a Novell board, is it? Mine was
givne to me by a fellow who gave up his laser printer in favor of a much
quiter inkjet.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Dicks" <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: HP III PS claimed
--- Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote:
The postscript level 2 and the memory card have
been claimed. Apparently
there
are quite a few people still using HP III's out there ;)
I've got a IIID, but it already had a 2Mb card and PS cart (and AppleTalk
I/O board) when I got it for $15 (uni surplus). It needed new transfer
pads and pickup rollers, but it's great now... a little slow, but the
duplexer works. It's on an external HP JetDirect EX Plus ($10 at a tent
sale), but I'd like an internal Ethernet board... all I have is a
strange 3rd-party Novell JetLAN card.
-ethan
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19 Jan
19 Jan
9:39 a.m.
--- Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> wrote:
Did you ever get the JetLan board to work?
With no PC software, I haven't even tried.
What is it that you believe/know the internal ethernet
board will do for
you that the JetLan won't? I've never been able to find out what
advantage the HP product offers.
Multi-protocol support. A good HP board can be talked to by Windows
(LAN Damager^H^H^H^H^H^HManager protocol), UNIX and Mac. Since I have
all of the above in my house, I want to point a stream of bits at the
printer and have spotted paper shoot out the other end.
The external box I have is nice, but it only has one port and I want to
put an inkjet printer on that. I feel that since the LaserJet can take
an internal card, I should use it and free the smart resource for a dumber
printer.
The JetLan board, BTW, isn't a Novell board, is
it?
As far as I know, the JetLAN board _is_ Novell. I do not want to run
a Novell server with print-spooler just to be able to print.
-ethan
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10:22 a.m.
You may be right about that, but I got the distinct impression from their web
site that they were a 3rd party vendor.
Now, I realize that not everyone uses WIndows, but when the JetLan board in my
HP printer is connected to the 10 MBps LAN, it immediately appears on the
"Network Neighborhood" window, and is apparently a valid destination. I've
only wanted to access it via Netware, so I never have tried sending print jobs
directly to it.
It's been a while, but IIRC, it appears as a printer, too.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Dicks" <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: HP III PS claimed
--- Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> wrote:
Did you ever get the JetLan board to work?
With no PC software, I haven't even tried.
What is it that you believe/know the internal
ethernet board will do for
you that the JetLan won't? I've never been able to find out what
advantage the HP product offers.
Multi-protocol support. A good HP board can be talked to by Windows
(LAN Damager^H^H^H^H^H^HManager protocol), UNIX and Mac. Since I have
all of the above in my house, I want to point a stream of bits at the
printer and have spotted paper shoot out the other end.
The external box I have is nice, but it only has one port and I want to
put an inkjet printer on that. I feel that since the LaserJet can take
an internal card, I should use it and free the smart resource for a dumber
printer.
The JetLan board, BTW, isn't a Novell board,
is it?
As far as I know, the JetLAN board _is_ Novell. I do not want to run
a Novell server with print-spooler just to be able to print.
-ethan
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7:44 p.m.
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I think these may support the SMB protocol as well. If this is the case,
you could always run Samba on a *nix machine.
-Toth
The JetLan
board, BTW, isn't a Novell board, is it?
As far as I know, the JetLAN board _is_ Novell. I do not want to run
a Novell server with print-spooler just to be able to print. 
18 Jan
18 Jan
6:39 p.m.
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Ethan Dicks wrote:
duplexer works. It's on an external HP JetDirect
EX Plus ($10 at a tent
sale), but I'd like an internal Ethernet board... all I have is a
strange 3rd-party Novell JetLAN card.
Hmmm. The Goodwill outlet here has several JetDirect cards, but i
don't know which are what. If you know a part # (and how much it's
worth), I'll see if there's a match next time I'm up there.
Doc
19 Jan
19 Jan
9:35 a.m.
--- Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Ethan Dicks wrote:
... but I'd like an internal Ethernet board...
Hmmm. The Goodwill outlet here has several JetDirect cards, but i
don't know which are what. If you know a part # (and how much it's
worth), I'll see if there's a match next time I'm up there.
I don't have a part number, but I can say that what I see most commonly
are for newer printers - square cards, maybe 5" on a side with a white
connector on one corner. These are too new. What I need is about 3"
wide, maybe 6" long, with gold-plated fingers in the middle of one short
side - those will fit.
Not sure what one is worth, sitting out on a table, but the local uni
surplus has entire printers of the vintage for $15.
-ethan
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