3 Jan
2002
3 Jan
'02
5:11 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com]
Certainly the PC hardware, regardless of OS or other
software
can NOT do
Amiga.
Can the Linux catweasel drivers actually use the catweasel as its disk
controller for the file system? Or is this an issue that the
catweasel
software (that does NOT work at a filesystem level) can also RUN under
linux?
Right, but remember that linux won't run only on peesees. :) Linux on a power-mac (or
amiga!) will likely produce bit-for-bit copies of amiga disks just fine.
Also, I think it's the standard linux floppy disk driver, which is pretty flexible,
and not a special "catweasel" driver, so it would be handled just the same as a
standard floppy setup. So I guess you could write ext2 filesystems to 880k floppies if
you want ;)
Or ... one could write an amiga filesystem for linux. I actually wonder why this
hasn't been done.
Has anybody, anywhere, EVER gotten a catweasel to work
as a
controller to
do file system level operations?
After this discussion, I'm tempted to get one and try. Too bad I can't afford it
just now.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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3 Jan
3 Jan
5:43 a.m.
> Certainly the PC hardware, regardless of OS or
other software
> can NOT do
> Amiga.
> Can the Linux catweasel drivers actually use the catweasel as its disk
> controller for the file system? Or is this an issue that the
> catweasel
> software (that does NOT work at a filesystem level) can also RUN under
> linux?
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote:
Right, but remember that linux won't run only on
peesees. :) Linux on
a power-mac (or amiga!) will likely produce bit-for-bit copies of
amiga disks just fine.
IRRELEVANT.
The discussion was how to make an Amiga disk using a PC.
It can not be done with the stock PC hardware.
Somebody said that it could be done with the stock PC, by using Linux.
THAT IS WRONG.
Also, I think it's the standard linux floppy disk
driver, which is
pretty flexible, and not a special "catweasel" driver, so it would be
handled just the same as a standard floppy setup. So I guess you
could write ext2 filesystems to 880k floppies if you want ;)
The "standard linux floppy disk driver" will operate the Catweasel card?
(It is NOT a floppy disk controller in terms of BIOS level interaction.)
Or
The "standard linux floppy disk driver" will do stuff that is impossible
with the PC hardware, without needing the Catweasel?
I would love to know how EITHER of those would work.
It WOULD be possible to write a floppy disk driver for Linux that could
make use of the Catweasel. But it has, apparently NOT been done, and
therefore suggestions of USING that are inappropriate.
Or ... one could write an amiga filesystem for linux.
I actually
wonder why this hasn't been done.
For use with linux on an Amiga?
Or are you trying to say that writing an amiga filesystem for Linux, would
permit a PC running Linux to read and write Amiga disksettes without
special hardware?
Could you also write one for NorthStar-DOS? (hard-sectored)
How about one for Apple-DOS? (GCR)
How about one that reads 8" diskettes in a 5.25" drive? (Maybe trimming
the edges, and not being able to read some outer tracks :-)
Has anybody,
anywhere, EVER gotten a catweasel to work as a
controller to
do file system level operations?
After this discussion, I'm tempted to get one
and try. Too bad I can't afford it just now. 
11:47 a.m.
Fred,
How about one that reads 8" diskettes in a
5.25" drive? (Maybe trimming
the edges, and not being able to read some outer tracks :-)
That was good. That one really cracked me up.
"Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" wrote:
>
> > > Certainly the PC hardware, regardless of OS or other software
> > > can NOT do
> > > Amiga.
> > > Can the Linux catweasel drivers actually use the catweasel as its disk
> > > controller for the file system? Or is this an issue that the
> > > catweasel
> > > software (that does NOT work at a filesystem level) can also RUN under
> > > linux?
>
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote:
> > Right, but remember that linux won't run only on peesees. :) Linux on
> > a power-mac (or amiga!) will likely produce bit-for-bit copies of
> > amiga disks just fine.
>
> IRRELEVANT.
> The discussion was how to make an Amiga disk using a PC.
> It can not be done with the stock PC hardware.
> Somebody said that it could be done with the stock PC, by using Linux.
> THAT IS WRONG.
>
> > Also, I think it's the standard linux floppy disk driver, which is
> > pretty flexible, and not a special "catweasel" driver, so it would be
> > handled just the same as a standard floppy setup. So I guess you
> > could write ext2 filesystems to 880k floppies if you want ;)
>
> The "standard linux floppy disk driver" will operate the Catweasel card?
> (It is NOT a floppy disk controller in terms of BIOS level interaction.)
> Or
> The "standard linux floppy disk driver" will do stuff that is impossible
> with the PC hardware, without needing the Catweasel?
>
> I would love to know how EITHER of those would work.
>
> It WOULD be possible to write a floppy disk driver for Linux that could
> make use of the Catweasel. But it has, apparently NOT been done, and
> therefore suggestions of USING that are inappropriate.
>
> > Or ... one could write an amiga filesystem for linux. I actually
> > wonder why this hasn't been done.
>
> For use with linux on an Amiga?
>
> Or are you trying to say that writing an amiga filesystem for Linux, would
> permit a PC running Linux to read and write Amiga disksettes without
> special hardware?
> Could you also write one for NorthStar-DOS? (hard-sectored)
> How about one for Apple-DOS? (GCR)
How about one that reads 8" diskettes in a
5.25" drive? (Maybe trimming
the edges, and not being able to read some outer tracks :-)
>
> > > Has anybody, anywhere, EVER gotten a catweasel to work as a
> > > controller to
> > > do file system level operations?
> > After this discussion, I'm tempted to get one and try. Too bad I can't
afford it just now.
>
> Please let us know when you do.
5:53 a.m.
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote:
Or ... one could write an amiga filesystem for linux.
I actually wonder why this hasn't been done.
It has. You have to build a kernel with AFFS support, and AFAIK, UAE is
the only way to actually build the fs. You can read amiga disks in
native Linux, if your hardware supports them.
Doc
9:21 a.m.
> Or ... one could write an amiga filesystem for
linux. I actually wonder
> why this hasn't been done.
It has. You have to build a kernel with AFFS support,
and AFAIK, UAE is
the only way to actually build the fs. You can read amiga disks in
native Linux, if your hardware supports them.
Heck, there's even a 1581fs for Commodore 1581 3.5" disks.
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