20 Nov
1999
20 Nov
'99
4:09 a.m.
Perhaps Tim Shoppa or Megan Gentry could comment on
the
legality of using PUTR to split apart SIG tapes into their smaller
DSK files.
The RT-11 (and RSX-11 and RSTS/E and ...) SIG tapes, like all DECUS
contributed material, had their authors sign pieces of paper stating
that the material can be redistributed and repackaged as necessary.
So there's no problem with manipulating any of these as you need or
desire.
John Wilson, at the top of PUTR.DOC, says:
PUTR is a copyrighted but freely distributable utility for
transferring files between various file systems and various
media.
He doesn't put any limitations on its use.
So I see no difficulties with using PUTR to do anything you want with
the PDP-11 freeware archives.
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21 Nov
21 Nov
1:40 p.m.
CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com wrote:
Perhaps Tim
Shoppa or Megan Gentry could comment on the
legality of using PUTR to split apart SIG tapes into their smaller
DSK files.
The RT-11 (and RSX-11 and RSTS/E and ...) SIG tapes, like all DECUS
contributed material, had their authors sign pieces of paper stating
that the material can be redistributed and repackaged as necessary.
So there's no problem with manipulating any of these as you need or
desire. 
3:50 p.m.
So for you fellows who are using the Supnik emulator
with V5.3 of RT-11
on a PC under DOS/W95/W98, you must still rely on PUTR to legally
extract the DSKs at the very end of the larger ones which exceed the
size of an RL02 as opposed to using the hobby version of E11 with
V5.3 of RT-11. Also, if you have a SCSI CD-ROM drive, PUTR
will allow access to the last 7 partitions on the CD while you would
have to have the "Full" commercial version of E11 to do the same. I
will also investigate the use of the "Full" commercial V2.1A of E11
to access those partitions using an IDE based CD-ROM drive on a
PC and let you know the results.
If in fact there is as much of a problem as you say (have you tried
it yet), it certainly shouldn't be much of a problem to edit the RL
source so that the VARSZ$ .SPFUN returns a larger size. Remember,
the whole idea behind VARSZ$ was to remove any device-specific size
dependencies from the RT monitor or utilities. If it reports that
the disk is a larger size, so be it.
I'd certainly try that (after simply trying it without making the
change).
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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4:20 p.m.
Megan wrote:
So for you
fellows who are using the Supnik emulator with V5.3 of RT-11
on a PC under DOS/W95/W98, you must still rely on PUTR to legally
extract the DSKs at the very end of the larger ones which exceed the
size of an RL02 as opposed to using the hobby version of E11 with
V5.3 of RT-11. Also, if you have a SCSI CD-ROM drive, PUTR
will allow access to the last 7 partitions on the CD while you would
have to have the "Full" commercial version of E11 to do the same. I
will also investigate the use of the "Full" commercial V2.1A of E11
to access those partitions using an IDE based CD-ROM drive on a
PC and let you know the results.
If in fact there is as much of a problem as you
say (have you tried
it yet), it certainly shouldn't be much of a problem to edit the RL
source so that the VARSZ$ .SPFUN returns a larger size. Remember,
the whole idea behind VARSZ$ was to remove any device-specific size
dependencies from the RT monitor or utilities. If it reports that
the disk is a larger size, so be it.
I'd certainly try that (after simply trying it without making the
change).
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