17 Nov
1997
17 Nov
'97
7:31 a.m.
<Speaking of Alpha's, is there any chance that I can put my own together? A
<agree... it's just plain stupid, and I hate Intel anyway... kind of like in
Sure, you can buy them used for prices that aren't all that expensive
compared to late model 486 or early p5s. The older ones are now some 4-5
years old. The OS for it will cost you. You have three choices that I
know of, OpenVMS (my favorite), Digital Unix, or NT. I don't know that
anyone has done a UNIX port outside of digital.
Allison
17 Nov
17 Nov
3:58 a.m.
<Speaking of Alpha's, is there any chance that
I can put my own together? A
<agree... it's just plain stupid, and I hate Intel anyway... kind of like in
Sure, you can buy them used for prices that aren't all that expensive
compared to late model 486 or early p5s. The older ones are now some 4-5
years old. The OS for it will cost you. You have three choices that I
know of, OpenVMS (my favorite), Digital Unix, or NT. I don't know that
anyone has done a UNIX port outside of digital.
Allison
Um, Linux 2.0.30 now have Alpha support, PPC, 68k (amiga), 386, Mips,
Sparc, Ataris. Linux is Unix kind which you can source unix source
code to it by freely available complier and make 'em.
Troll
7:54 a.m.
Due to massive amounts of caffeine & sleep deprivation, Allison J Parent said:
<Speaking of Alpha's, is there any chance that I
can put my own together? A
<agree... it's just plain stupid, and I hate Intel anyway... kind of like in
Sure, you can buy them used for prices that aren't all that expensive
compared to late model 486 or early p5s. The older ones are now some 4-5
years old. The OS for it will cost you. You have three choices that I
know of, OpenVMS (my favorite), Digital Unix, or NT. I don't know that
anyone has done a UNIX port outside of digital.
Sure... Linux. Linus Torvalds (the guy who wrote/writes/improves it) owns a
DEC Alpha 500Mhz machine... I remember hearing that he can do a full kernal
compile (with every single driver/module/etc.) on version 2.0.0 in under 8
minutes. (it's 15-20 minutes for a barebones kernal (1.3.18) on my Cyrix
P150+)
Anyone got a Alpha 166 *cheap*??? ;-)
HTH,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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4:21 a.m.
Due to massive amounts of caffeine & sleep
deprivation, Allison J Parent said:
Sure... Linux. Linus Torvalds (the guy who
wrote/writes/improves it) owns a
DEC Alpha 500Mhz machine... I remember hearing that he can do a full kernal
compile (with every single driver/module/etc.) on version 2.0.0 in under 8
minutes. (it's 15-20 minutes for a barebones kernal (1.3.18) on my Cyrix
P150+)
I have done full kernel compiles on 16mb/P5 100 intel/ Fast ATA-2 1GB
and took that long. Oh, memory is FPM, the cache is 256k
pipelined burst. That's 1.3.12 with seveal extras included to
support several devices and not yet to gotten that 2.0 cheaply but I
know of good outfit called Cheapbytes where you can had Slackware
or different packages for a expensive song on cd. :) Complete copy
as you see on net.
Only thing that stopped me doing Xwindows was that dumb display card
that drives LCD module (it's old one but VGA capable Cirrus logic
610/620 chipset on that old lunchbox). And where could I find a
complete shematic of ISA/IDE so I could build a custom adapter to
plug into my better notebook (LTE 386s/20) to drive a IDE cdrom? Oh
yeah, I do have the expansion pinout and it's ISA compatiable and I
do have proper connectors.
Anyone got a Alpha 166 *cheap*??? ;-)
Far cheap
to get used Intel chips from 486dx4-100 all the way to P5
233mmx or P5 200, cost have came down on PPro 180 256k to about under
200 each and you can overclock it to 200mhz. AMD K6 have problems
with some s/w giving sig errors. Also both Cyrix and AMD chips have
weak FPU.
Troll
HTH,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger Merchberger | Why does Hershey's put nutritional
Programmer, NorthernWay | information on their candy bar wrappers
zmerch(a)northernway.net | when there's no nutritional value within?
Troll
8:03 a.m.
Isn't there a Unix port of FREEBSD for Alpha?
George Rachor
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George L. Rachor george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com
Beaverton, Oregon
On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Allison J Parent wrote:
<Speaking of Alpha's, is there any chance that
I can put my own together? A
<agree... it's just plain stupid, and I hate Intel anyway... kind of like in
Sure, you can buy them used for prices that aren't all that expensive
compared to late model 486 or early p5s. The older ones are now some 4-5
years old. The OS for it will cost you. You have three choices that I
know of, OpenVMS (my favorite), Digital Unix, or NT. I don't know that
anyone has done a UNIX port outside of digital.
Allison
10:13 a.m.
On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Allison J Parent wrote:
<Speaking of Alpha's, is there any chance that
I can put my own together? A
<agree... it's just plain stupid, and I hate Intel anyway... kind of like in
Sure, you can buy them used for prices that aren't all that expensive
compared to late model 486 or early p5s. The older ones are now some 4-5
years old. The OS for it will cost you. You have three choices that I
know of, OpenVMS (my favorite), Digital Unix, or NT. I don't know that
anyone has done a UNIX port outside of digital.
Nope! There's Linux/Alpha. DEC gave Linus Torvalds an AV5 just to do the
port.
18 Nov
18 Nov
7:20 a.m.
Okay... just a few more off topic questions (well, not about the old Alphas, which
is probably what this is going to be about) (1) Are old/new Motherboards
compatible (IE 300 Mhz now, 600 Mhz later) (2) Where on God's creation can I get
the parts???? (As for the OS, I'll probably take Linux, or NT, but I thought that
there was translation software for x86 written...)
Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Allison J Parent wrote:
<Speaking of Alpha's, is there any chance
that I can put my own together? A
<agree... it's just plain stupid, and I hate Intel anyway... kind of like in
Sure, you can buy them used for prices that aren't all that expensive
compared to late model 486 or early p5s. The older ones are now some 4-5
years old. The OS for it will cost you. You have three choices that I
know of, OpenVMS (my favorite), Digital Unix, or NT. I don't know that
anyone has done a UNIX port outside of digital.
Nope! There's Linux/Alpha. DEC gave Linus Torvalds an AV5 just to do the
port. 
19 Nov
19 Nov
1:54 p.m.
At 01:31 PM 11/17/97 -0500, Allison J Parent wrote:
<Speaking of Alpha's, is there any chance that I
can put my own together? A
<agree... it's just plain stupid, and I hate Intel anyway... kind of like in
Sure, you can buy them used for prices that aren't all that expensive
compared to late model 486 or early p5s. The older ones are now some 4-5
years old. The OS for it will cost you. You have three choices that I
know of, OpenVMS (my favorite), Digital Unix, or NT. I don't know that
anyone has done a UNIX port outside of digital.
For the more recent Alpha systems (basically anything with PCI) you can run
Linux. Also NetBSD supports some of the older Alpha systems (the
3000/300LX) for example.
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au
Information Technology Services | Phone: +61 3 9479 1550 Fax: +61 3 9479
1999
La Trobe University | "My Alfas keep me poor in a monetary
Melbourne Australia 3083 | sense, but rich in so many other ways"
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