On 2011-04-16 19:00, cctech-request at
classiccmp.org wrote:
Are you saying that this uses a rack-and-pinion
type of hard positioner?
If so, it's the first one I've heard of in a floppy drive, but anyway...
It is indeed a rack-and-pinion positioner.
That is unusual. I think it would be worth trying to restore this drive,
if only to have a working example of such a mechanism
You would want
som way to eliminate the backlash between the rack and the
drive gear. One common way to do thsi is to make the gear in 2 'slices'.
One is fixed to the spidnle, the other is free to move by a small angle,
but there;s a bias spring forcing it in a particualr direciton relative
to the spindle. The idea is that said spring is pre-tensioned when the
mechnaism is assembled so that the teeth of the 2 gears are forces to
commpletel fill the gaps between the teeth on the rack.
I know what you mean.
There is nothing like that here, everything is
probably too small. The pinion is about 2 mm diameter and the teeth on
the rack are something like 3 per mm...
3 teeth per mm? That's a very fine pitch.
Thinking about it, 3.5" 80 cylinder drives have 135 tpi. So the track
spacing is 1/135" or 0.19mm. The backlashj in the mechansim must be a lot
less than that, I guess with a 0.3mm pitch rack you can get that.
What I would
do next is with the drive removed, try carefully moving the
head back and forth and/or rotatign the stepper motor spindle and see
what moves. If something is stripped then moving the head will not
rotrate the motore and vice versa. Of course you may find that something
is jammed solid, in which cae that could be the problem.
I removed the motor, it
turns out the rack and the pinion is in good
As soon as you remvoed tht motor, you lost the head alighment...
shape. What I was seeing was just a deposit of grease
and/or gunk. The
head assembly was locked solid. It runs on a steel rod approx. 2 mm
diameter which goes through what looks like bushes, and it was
completely jammed from lack of lubrication, dirt etc. The bad news is
that now everything is out of alignment since the head assembly came
loose when I was trying to move it (it was locked really, really solid),
Provide the head is not damaged, I'd try cleaning it up, making it work
freely again, and then see if you can get the drive working. Even with
the radial alignment way off, the drive should be able to read its own
disks (ones formated in that drive).
As for doing the full alignment, there are various ways of getting it
somehat near using a disk formatted on a known-good drive, but it's a lot
easier with an alignment disk and 'scope.
and I don't have an alignment disk. Still, it was
a learning experience...
I have ordered a new drive from a local shop, they don't keep them in
stock. They are only 6 Euros so replacing it will be a lot less trouble
Hmmm. I wonder if those cheap drives are ever aligned at the factory...
I've seen new drives over here that are certainly marginal when checked
against a good alignment disk.
than making it work again. I would have liked to fix
it, but that is
simply not practical, sadly.
I'm not convinced it's impossible.
Interestingly, Atari drives are sold for about $50 on
eBay, with
shipping to Sweden another $50. I suppose they are "collectable". That
works out at about 10x the price of a new one. The difference is that
the original drive is 720K and has a special bezel and eject knob, a new
one is 1.44M and the bezel and knob can be transferred from the old one.
The machine itself works with a 1.44M drive.
Hmmm... I guess I am more of a purist, but I really don't like replacing
modules (such as drives) in classic computers with random modern units.
To me, the design of the drive is part of the design of the machine, and
it should be preserved if at all possible.
Yes, a lathe is a very useful machine. Unfortunately I
can't really see
where to put one in my flat, except possibly a watchmaker's lathe. Of
course one of those would have been just the job here if I needed new parts.
For most classic computer work (at least the sort of machines you'll be
working on if you're short of space :-)) you don't need a large lathe. I
am told you can do a lot with something like a Unimat or a Peatol/Taig.
-tony