8 Dec
2006
8 Dec
'06
11:32 a.m.
I've also got a big pile of ISA NICS and PCI 10BaseT/Thinnet for shipping
cost.
I also have FTP software's PC/TCP DOS TCP software if anyone wants the 3
ring binder full of disks.
NE2000 clones (10BaseT and Thinnet)
WD8013/8212/8003's
Intel EtherExpress cards
Realtek 8029
3Com 3c509
3Com 3c905
Bill
On 12/7/06, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
Speaking of ISA NICs, I have a boatload if anyone needs some for cost
of shipping. ISA and PCI.
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8 Dec
8 Dec
3:52 p.m.
I have one of the parallel port to ethernet devices... a Xircom. I wonder if
anyone ever reverse engineered the user interface to the parallel port for
it :)
Jay
5:04 p.m.
On 12/9/06, Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I have one of the parallel port to ethernet devices...
a Xircom. I wonder if
anyone ever reverse engineered the user interface to the parallel port for
it :)
It would be interesting if anyone ever did. I tried to, about 10
years ago, and ran into a brick wall at Xircom. At the time, there
were few options for Ethernet for Amiga, the expensive A2065 being one
of a very small number of choices. I had thought that while the
pocket adapters would never be fast, every Amiga had a parallel
connector and it might be possible to at least put machines on ones
network and worry about speed later. I was involved in talks with
their technical folks about securing developer-class docs when they
totally shut me down because they "didn't want to enter the Amiga
market". When pocket adapters came up in the Linux arena shortly
thereafter, I made some comments on a mailing list about how difficult
Xircom was to work with and how I couldn't endorse their products as
such. That comment stuck around on the 'net for a long time, long
past the time when I was using a Xircom CE3 PCMCIA NIC with Linux.
-ethan
6:02 p.m.
On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 11:04 +1300, Ethan Dicks wrote:
. . . I made some comments on a mailing list about how
difficult
Xircom was to work with and how I couldn't endorse their products as
such. That comment stuck around on the 'net for a long time, long
past the time when I was using a Xircom CE3 PCMCIA NIC with Linux.
Yeah, that's a problem... most of us tend to write these e-mail
comments as if they were a bit of talk tossed off (American sense of the
phrased, please... well, actually, both could apply...) in casual
conversation. Then they get sent to perhaps hundreds of people, and
archived for posterity. So, it's clear one should say ONLY things one
wants remembered for yea... er, wait. Never mind.
Peace,
Warren E. Wolfe
wizard at voyager.net
9 Dec
9 Dec
10:36 a.m.
Jay West wrote:
I have one of the parallel port to ethernet devices...
a Xircom. I
wonder if anyone ever reverse engineered the user interface to the
parallel port for it :)
Jay
Somebody tried - they were working on a Linux device driver for it, and
you can search to find the results. In a nutshell, Xircom never
released the specs, and it was too much of a pain to reverse engineer.
Hence it is not supported by Linux.
6:43 p.m.
On Dec 9, 2006, at 10:36 AM, Michael B. Brutman wrote:
Somebody tried - they were working on a Linux device
driver for it,
and you can search to find the results. In a nutshell, Xircom
never released the specs, and it was too much of a pain to reverse
engineer. Hence it is not supported by Linux.
I could've sworn Linux supported these at one point, back in the
early-mid 1990s.
-Dave
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Cape Coral, FL
7:02 p.m.
Dave McGuire wrote:
On Dec 9, 2006, at 10:36 AM, Michael B. Brutman
wrote:
http://www.buzzard.me.uk/jonathan/pe3.html
Mike
Somebody tried - they were working on a Linux
device driver for it,
and you can search to find the results. In a nutshell, Xircom never
released the specs, and it was too much of a pain to reverse engineer.
Hence it is not supported by Linux.
I could've sworn Linux supported these at one point, back in the
early-mid 1990s.
-Dave
--Dave McGuire
Cape Coral, FL
10:31 p.m.
On Sat, 9 Dec 2006, Michael B. Brutman wrote:
Jay West wrote:
Eh...them's fightin words^O^O^O^O^Othere's a challenge :)
I guess I'll have to add this to my ever growing to-investigate/to-do
list. Dunno where I'd find the adapters these days though.
-Toth
I have one of the parallel port to ethernet
devices... a Xircom. I
wonder if anyone ever reverse engineered the user interface to the
parallel port for it :)
Somebody tried - they were working on a Linux device driver for it, and
you can search to find the results. In a nutshell, Xircom never
released the specs, and it was too much of a pain to reverse engineer.
Hence it is not supported by Linux. 
10 Dec
10 Dec
4:32 p.m.
Tothwolf wrote:
On Sat, 9 Dec 2006, Michael B. Brutman wrote:
If you'd spoke up sooner, I had 3 on eBay a few weeks back. They were
rotting here, and I wanted them out. The were PE3's
If I find another, I'll note it to the list.
Jim
Jay West wrote:
Eh...them's fightin words^O^O^O^O^Othere's a challenge :)
I guess I'll have to add this to my ever growing to-investigate/to-do
list. Dunno where I'd find the adapters these days though.
-Toth I have one of the parallel port to ethernet
devices... a Xircom. I
wonder if anyone ever reverse engineered the user interface to the
parallel port for it :)
Somebody tried - they were working on a Linux device driver for it,
and you can search to find the results. In a nutshell, Xircom never
released the specs, and it was too much of a pain to reverse
engineer. Hence it is not supported by Linux.
5:56 p.m.
On 12/11/06, Jim Brain <brain at jbrain.com> wrote:
If you'd spoke up sooner, I had 3 on eBay a few
weeks back. They were
rotting here, and I wanted them out. The were PE3's
The PE3s are nice - I use one with an old Zenith laptop (w/dual pop-up
720K floppies) and Kermit for a portable terminal (the PE3 is for when
I want to access hosts over Ethernet instead of serial - Kermit comes
with a TCP stack - just add packet driver). I know the PE3s can be
parasitically powered over a PS/2 or AT keyboard connector; I'm not so
sure the PE2s are low enough power to do that (I have a pigtail lead
from the PE3 power jack to a M/F PS/2 passthrough
connector - very
handy).
All this discussion of Linux aside, at the moment, AFAIK, the PE3 is
stuck in the era of DOS and packet drivers (so DOS, Win3.1, etc.) I
think it still works with Win95, but there is no XP driver, rendering
them somewhat useless for most modern consumers, keeping the price
down. Jim, I'm curious what you got for them on eBay since they do
lack widespread utility with modern machines. ISTR seeing them at
Dayton in the $5-$10 range, typically on table with PCMCIA cards and
what-not, but perhaps they are old enough to be in they "curious and
getting scarce" category.
-ethan
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