At 22:18 -0500 6/16/04, pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com wrote: (mumble) (blush) er... ahh... it must be here somewhere. Earliest thing I have is from July 1997, which probably doesn't put me in the top thirty. But I've enjoyed the group enormously anyway. Re: charter mods: I love being able to ask about my NeXT on here, so 10 years is a nice number for me. 15 would be OK, I guess. I do think there is value to questions on how to run new software on old (>10 year) hardware. I do think there is value to questions on how to run old (>10 year) software on new hardware. I suspect there are very few "how do I fix my PC" annoying questioners who are using *either* hardware *or* software more than 10 years old. My vote is to keep the 10-year limit [1], and clarify it to make clear that if either the software running or the hardware it's running on makes the 10-year limit, it qualifies. [1] There's that VAX VLC4000 that I keep meaning to spend some quality time with....it's pretty fresh-on. -- - Mark 210-522-6025, page 888-733-0967