22 Feb
2016
22 Feb
'16
12:55 p.m.
Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore floppy drive to a SD card
if so please enplane how it is done also I have MANY hard to find games
if someonr would like to email the Fleet System 2+ I would be happy to
trade them a game for it!
Thank you all for all the great help you have given me!
22 Feb
22 Feb
7:12 p.m.
D64 editor and wcopy+
Bill Degnan
twitter: billdeg
vintagecomputer.net
On Feb 22, 2016 6:55 PM, "Mike" <tulsamike3434 at gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore floppy
drive to a SD card
if so please enplane how it is done also I have MANY hard to find games
if someonr would like to email the Fleet System 2+ I would be happy to
trade them a game for it!
Thank you all for all the great help you have given me!
7:41 p.m.
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore floppy
drive to a SD card
if so please enplane how it is done
You need a machine that supports both formats. Either add an SD card to a
Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling and software to read the
commodore disk on a PC.
8:53 p.m.
I do a fair amount of cross-C64 work, but all of it's on Linux.. here's
what I can tell you, much of which applies to MS/Win as well.
First you need a method of reading the original C-64 floppy into a .D64 (or
other supported) image. This requires +four+ basic things - a PC, a 1541
(or compatible) drive, a supporting software suite and one of the various
X-1541 cables. These days, with modern multi-tasking OSes, I'd suggest
using nothing but the XM-1541 cable design. These may be purchased, or,
with a little time & effort, built up by the DIY-er.
The XM-1541 cable connects the CBM 1541 drive to the parallel port on the
PC. The software suite (I highly suggest OpenCBM!) acts as a userland
driver / utility suite, allowing you to read, write, format etc. original
SS/SD disks on the 1541 drive. Once you have successfully read images of
the disk(s), then it's up to you how you handle them..
If you have one of the SD-based systems, simply copy over the image to the
SD and you're good! I don't use SD card, just original 1541 & floppies, so
wouldn't have much help for that end of the process. But I'm sure it's very
well documented by the vendor of the SD-card drive hardware - right? =)
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore
floppy drive to a SD card
if so please enplane how it is done
You need a machine that supports both formats. Either add an SD card to a
Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling and software to read the
commodore disk on a PC.
8:55 p.m.
Pardon this..
One thing I forgot to mention, is copy protection. As far as I'm aware,
none of the cross-platform suites (like OpenCBM) support copying protected
discs.
You may find that they can do an end-run around certain techniques, but in
general, it's just not supported. If your games aren't already 'cracked',
then that's another issue in and of itself.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:53 PM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
I do a fair amount of cross-C64 work, but all of
it's on Linux.. here's
what I can tell you, much of which applies to MS/Win as well.
First you need a method of reading the original C-64 floppy into a .D64
(or other supported) image. This requires +four+ basic things - a PC, a
1541 (or compatible) drive, a supporting software suite and one of the
various X-1541 cables. These days, with modern multi-tasking OSes, I'd
suggest using nothing but the XM-1541 cable design. These may be purchased,
or, with a little time & effort, built up by the DIY-er.
The XM-1541 cable connects the CBM 1541 drive to the parallel port on the
PC. The software suite (I highly suggest OpenCBM!) acts as a userland
driver / utility suite, allowing you to read, write, format etc. original
SS/SD disks on the 1541 drive. Once you have successfully read images of
the disk(s), then it's up to you how you handle them..
If you have one of the SD-based systems, simply copy over the image to the
SD and you're good! I don't use SD card, just original 1541 & floppies, so
wouldn't have much help for that end of the process. But I'm sure it's very
well documented by the vendor of the SD-card drive hardware - right? =)
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore
floppy drive to a SD card
if so please enplane how it is done
You need a machine that supports both formats. Either add an SD card to
a Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling and software to read the
commodore disk on a PC.
9 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:55 PM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
Pardon this..
One thing I forgot to mention, is copy protection. As far as I'm aware,
none of the cross-platform suites (like OpenCBM) support copying protected
discs.
You may find that they can do an end-run around certain techniques, but in
general, it's just not supported. If your games aren't already
'cracked',
then that's another issue in and of itself.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:53 PM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com>
wrote:
If you have uIEC it's a piece of cake. (my earlier email I made a typo,
it's NOT "iUEC")
Here is the d64 editor I used
http://www.vintagecomputer.net/commodore/64/d64editor/
--
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Web: vintagecomputer.net
Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg>
Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg>
Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>
I do a fair amount of cross-C64 work, but all of
it's on Linux.. here's
what I can tell you, much of which applies to MS/Win as well.
<snip>
If you have one of the SD-based systems, simply copy over the image to
the
SD and you're good! I don't use SD card,
just original 1541 & floppies,
so
wouldn't have much help for that end of the
process. But I'm sure it's
very
well documented by the vendor of the SD-card
drive hardware - right? =)
9:54 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016, drlegendre . wrote:
I do a fair amount of cross-C64 work, but all of
it's on Linux.. here's
what I can tell you, much of which applies to MS/Win as well.
First you need a method of reading the original C-64 floppy into a .D64 (or
other supported) image. This requires +four+ basic things - a PC, a 1541
(or compatible) drive, a supporting software suite and one of the various
X-1541 cables. These days, with modern multi-tasking OSes, I'd suggest
using nothing but the XM-1541 cable design. These may be purchased, or,
with a little time & effort, built up by the DIY-er.
Does anyone know of a way, from Linux, to determine the particular
species of one of those cables? I bought mine years ago and no longer
remember which it is (and it isn't marked). I assume it's XM, since I'm
sure I intended it for use in Linux when I bought it, but I'd like to be
sure.
The XM-1541 cable connects the CBM 1541 drive to the parallel port on the
PC. The software suite (I highly suggest OpenCBM!) acts as a userland
driver / utility suite, allowing you to read, write, format etc. original
SS/SD disks on the 1541 drive. Once you have successfully read images of
the disk(s), then it's up to you how you handle them..
Somewhere I picked up the idea that for that you would need a cable that
connects, not only to the serial IEC port of the drive, but to a
parallel port which you must DIY on the drive. Would someone mind
chiming in here -- I don't understand how that would do anything other
than making the transfer faster? I know that on the software side you
specifically need nibbling tools, like mnib.
If you have one of the SD-based systems, simply copy over the image to the
SD and you're good! I don't use SD card, just original 1541 & floppies, so
wouldn't have much help for that end of the process. But I'm sure it's very
well documented by the vendor of the SD-card drive hardware - right? =)
The SD card devices all use Ingo Korb's SD2IEC software, as far as I
know. The main source of documentation I know of is at
<https://www.sd2iec.de/gitweb/?p=sd2iec.git;a=blob;f=README;hb=HEAD>.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore floppy drive to a SD card
>> if so please enplane how it is done
>>
>
> You need a machine that supports both formats. Either add an SD card to a
> Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling and software to read the
> commodore disk on a PC.
>
>
--
Eric Christopherson
23 Feb
23 Feb
1:17 a.m.
I know of no way, probing only with the PC & software, to determine which
type of X-1541 cable you might have. However, wiring diagrams for +all+
versions are freely available, and it shouldn't be any great effort to open
up and - with the help of a multimeter - examine a given cable and compare
it against the various arrangements.
The 1541-side parallel port is totally optional, and it is not required to
produce a working setup. However, when coupled with an appropriate cable,
drives equipped with the parallel connector operate several times faster
than even the fastest non-parallel setups. That said, any of the X-1541
setups will tend to run a fair bit faster than a genuine Commodre IEC bus,
so unless you plan to do a +lot+ of transfer, don't worry about going the
parallel route.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Eric Christopherson <
echristopherson at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016, drlegendre . wrote:
I do a fair amount of cross-C64 work, but all of
it's on Linux.. here's
what I can tell you, much of which applies to MS/Win as well.
First you need a method of reading the original C-64 floppy into a .D64
(or
other supported) image. This requires +four+
basic things - a PC, a 1541
(or compatible) drive, a supporting software suite and one of the various
X-1541 cables. These days, with modern multi-tasking OSes, I'd suggest
using nothing but the XM-1541 cable design. These may be purchased, or,
with a little time & effort, built up by the DIY-er.
Does anyone know of a way, from Linux, to determine the particular
species of one of those cables? I bought mine years ago and no longer
remember which it is (and it isn't marked). I assume it's XM, since I'm
sure I intended it for use in Linux when I bought it, but I'd like to be
sure.
The XM-1541 cable connects the CBM 1541 drive to the parallel port on the
PC. The software suite (I highly suggest OpenCBM!) acts as a userland
driver / utility suite, allowing you to read, write, format etc. original
SS/SD disks on the 1541 drive. Once you have successfully read images of
the disk(s), then it's up to you how you handle them..
Somewhere I picked up the idea that for that you would need a cable that
connects, not only to the serial IEC port of the drive, but to a
parallel port which you must DIY on the drive. Would someone mind
chiming in here -- I don't understand how that would do anything other
than making the transfer faster? I know that on the software side you
specifically need nibbling tools, like mnib.
If you have one of the SD-based systems, simply copy over the image to
the
SD and you're good! I don't use SD card,
just original 1541 & floppies,
so
wouldn't have much help for that end of the
process. But I'm sure it's
very
well documented by the vendor of the SD-card
drive hardware - right? =)
The SD card devices all use Ingo Korb's SD2IEC software, as far as I
know. The main source of documentation I know of is at
<https://www.sd2iec.de/gitweb/?p=sd2iec.git;a=blob;f=README;hb=HEAD>.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore floppy drive to a SD
card
>> if so please enplane how it is done
>>
>
> You need a machine that supports both formats. Either add an SD card
to a
> Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling
and software to read the
> commodore disk on a PC.
>
>
--
Eric Christopherson
2:02 a.m.
On 02/22/2016 10:17 PM, drlegendre . wrote:
I know of no way, probing only with the PC &
software, to determine
which type of X-1541 cable you might have. However, wiring diagrams
for +all+ versions are freely available, and it shouldn't be any
great effort to open up and - with the help of a multimeter - examine
a given cable and compare it against the various arrangements.
The 1541-side parallel port is totally optional, and it is not
required to produce a working setup. However, when coupled with an
appropriate cable, drives equipped with the parallel connector
operate several times faster than even the fastest non-parallel
setups. That said, any of the X-1541 setups will tend to run a fair
bit faster than a genuine Commodre IEC bus, so unless you plan to do
a +lot+ of transfer, don't worry about going the parallel route.
I'm occasionally called on to transfer some of the C64 floppies. I have
a 1571 and have cobbled up the XM interface connected to a DB25F
permanently mounted on the drive. That way, I can use a "straight
through" cable to the parallel port of the host PC without thinking
about what I might need. Works fine; I get use it about once every 3-4
years.
I suppose it might be possible to rig something more elaborate up using
a small MCU and a USB cable, but the need doesn't justify the effort.
--Chuck
7:51 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
I'm occasionally called on to transfer some of the C64 floppies. I have a
1571 and have cobbled up the XM interface connected to a DB25F permanently
mounted on the drive. That way, I can use a "straight through" cable to the
parallel port of the host PC without thinking about what I might need.
Works fine; I get use it about once every 3-4 years.
I suppose it might be possible to rig something more elaborate up using a
small MCU and a USB cable, but the need doesn't justify the effort.
FWIW, I use a ZoomFloppy[1] connected to a 1571. OpenCBM is my choice
for software.
Only used occasionally :)
References:
1) http://www.go4retro.com/products/zoomfloppy/
--
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen
9:49 a.m.
New subject: Fleet Sheet 2+ 1990
On 02/23/2016 07:51 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Chuck Guzis
<cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
Thank you all for the info that
seem like a lot of work I think I found
the problem and I know your gonna laugh I have the floppy's here...
http://tinypic.com/r/11w7sw8/9
http://tinypic.com/r/344a1bq/9
http://tinypic.com/r/2exoms7/9
And here is the book or user manual I have...
http://tinypic.com/r/25hjzm8/9
http://tinypic.com/r/2rcwcoo/9
Now in the book there are many more options than on the disks that I can
use even the seyup file looks different. I hjave looked everywhere on
the web for a 2nd version but on the disks and the book they both say "
Fleet System 2+ " doens anyone or has any one ever used this software
before and If anyone can find them on the internet for download that
would be greal I think the disks were made in ...
1986
and the book was made in March of 1990...
i need the disk images from 1990 and i would gladly send who ever finds
a digital copy of the 1990 Fleet Sheet 2+ my 1986 disks... my father
bought the disks himseld he was a pastor and used them for his sermons.
I'm occasionally called on to transfer some
of the C64 floppies. I have a
1571 and have cobbled up the XM interface connected to a DB25F permanently
mounted on the drive. That way, I can use a "straight through" cable to the
parallel port of the host PC without thinking about what I might need.
Works fine; I get use it about once every 3-4 years.
I suppose it might be possible to rig something more elaborate up using a
small MCU and a USB cable, but the need doesn't justify the effort.
FWIW, I
use a ZoomFloppy[1] connected to a 1571. OpenCBM is my choice
for software.
Only used occasionally :)
References:
1) http://www.go4retro.com/products/zoomfloppy/
10:51 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:17 AM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
I know of no way, probing only with the PC &
software, to determine which
type of X-1541 cable you might have. However, wiring diagrams for +all+
versions are freely available, and it shouldn't be any great effort to open
up and - with the help of a multimeter - examine a given cable and compare
it against the various arrangements.
The 1541-side parallel port is totally optional, and it is not required to
produce a working setup.
OK, so the presence of that parallel port has nothing to do with imaging
copy-protected disks, as I thought?
Now that I think about it, maybe some particular nibbling software (mnib or
the like) just requires the parallel port, probably for speed reasons or
whatever.
However, when coupled with an appropriate cable,
drives equipped with the parallel connector operate several times faster
than even the fastest non-parallel setups. That said, any of the X-1541
setups will tend to run a fair bit faster than a genuine Commodre IEC bus,
so unless you plan to do a +lot+ of transfer, don't worry about going the
parallel route.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Eric Christopherson <
echristopherson at gmail.com> wrote:
the
wrote:
--
Eric Christopherson
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016, drlegendre . wrote:
1541
I do a fair amount of cross-C64 work, but all of
it's on Linux.. here's
what I can tell you, much of which applies to MS/Win as well.
First you need a method of reading the original C-64 floppy into a .D64
(or
> other supported) image. This requires +four+ basic things - a PC, a > (or compatible) drive, a supporting software
suite and one of the
various
X-1541
cables. These days, with modern multi-tasking OSes, I'd suggest
using nothing but the XM-1541 cable design. These may be purchased, or,
with a little time & effort, built up by the DIY-er.
Does anyone know of a way, from Linux, to determine the particular
species of one of those cables? I bought mine years ago and no longer
remember which it is (and it isn't marked). I assume it's XM, since I'm
sure I intended it for use in Linux when I bought it, but I'd like to be
sure.
>
> The XM-1541 cable connects the CBM 1541 drive to the parallel port on > PC. The software suite (I highly suggest
OpenCBM!) acts as a userland
> driver / utility suite, allowing you to read, write, format etc.
original
> SS/SD disks on the 1541 drive. Once you have
successfully read images
of
the
disk(s), then it's up to you how you handle them..
Somewhere I picked up the idea that for that you would need a cable that
connects, not only to the serial IEC port of the drive, but to a
parallel port which you must DIY on the drive. Would someone mind
chiming in here -- I don't understand how that would do anything other
than making the transfer faster? I know that on the software side you
specifically need nibbling tools, like mnib.
If you have one of the SD-based systems, simply copy over the image to
the
SD and you're good! I don't use SD card,
just original 1541 & floppies,
so
wouldn't have much help for that end of the
process. But I'm sure it's
very
well documented by the vendor of the SD-card
drive hardware - right? =)
The SD card devices all use Ingo Korb's SD2IEC software, as far as I
know. The main source of documentation I know of is at
<https://www.sd2iec.de/gitweb/?p=sd2iec.git;a=blob;f=README;hb=HEAD>.
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore floppy drive to a SD
card
>> if so please enplane how it is done
>>
>
> You need a machine that supports both formats. Either add an SD card
to a
> Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling
and software to read the
> commodore disk on a PC.
>
>
--
Eric Christopherson
6:07 p.m.
"OK, so the presence of that parallel port has nothing to do with imaging
copy-protected disks, as I thought?
Now that I think about it, maybe some particular nibbling software (mnib or
the like) just requires the parallel port, probably for speed reasons or
whatever."
As I say, I'm only aware of using the second parallel port to speed disk
transfers, and in that capacity it's really excellent. If it has other
uses, that's new info to me.. since I never need to copy protected
originals, I've never looked into it.
Once the hardware is in place, open CBM auto-detects the presence of the
parallel connection as an "XP-1541" setup, vs. XM-1541 using only the
serial cable. No further configuration is required, it just reads & writes
at like 4-5X the speed.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Eric Christopherson <
echristopherson at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:17 AM, drlegendre .
<drlegendre at gmail.com>
wrote:
suggest
that
SD
--
Eric Christopherson
I know of no way, probing only with the PC &
software, to determine which
type of X-1541 cable you might have. However, wiring diagrams for +all+
versions are freely available, and it shouldn't be any great effort to
open
up and - with the help of a multimeter - examine
a given cable and
compare
it against the various arrangements.
The 1541-side parallel port is totally optional, and it is not required
to
produce a working setup.
OK, so the presence of that parallel port has nothing to do with imaging
copy-protected disks, as I thought?
Now that I think about it, maybe some particular nibbling software (mnib or
the like) just requires the parallel port, probably for speed reasons or
whatever.
However, when coupled with an appropriate cable,
drives equipped with the parallel connector operate several times faster
than even the fastest non-parallel setups. That said, any of the X-1541
setups will tend to run a fair bit faster than a genuine Commodre IEC
bus,
so unless you plan to do a +lot+ of transfer,
don't worry about going the
parallel route.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Eric Christopherson <
echristopherson at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016, drlegendre . wrote:
> > I do a fair amount of cross-C64 work, but all of it's on Linux..
here's
> > what I can tell you, much of which
applies to MS/Win as well.
> >
> > First you need a method of reading the original C-64 floppy into a
.D64
(or
> other supported) image. This requires +four+ basic things - a PC, a
1541
> (or compatible) drive, a supporting software
suite and one of the
various
> > X-1541 cables. These days, with modern multi-tasking OSes, I'd > > using nothing but the XM-1541 cable
design. These may be purchased,
or,
> > with a little time & effort, built
up by the DIY-er.
>
> Does anyone know of a way, from Linux, to determine the particular
> species of one of those cables? I bought mine years ago and no longer
> remember which it is (and it isn't marked). I assume it's XM, since I'm
> sure I intended it for use in Linux when I bought it, but I'd like to
be
sure.
>
> The XM-1541 cable connects the CBM 1541 drive to the parallel port on
the
> PC. The software suite (I highly suggest
OpenCBM!) acts as a userland
> driver / utility suite, allowing you to read, write, format etc.
original
> SS/SD disks on the 1541 drive. Once you have
successfully read images
of
> > the disk(s), then it's up to you how you handle them..
>
> Somewhere I picked up the idea that for that you would need a cable > connects, not only to the serial IEC port of
the drive, but to a
> parallel port which you must DIY on the drive. Would someone mind
> chiming in here -- I don't understand how that would do anything other
> than making the transfer faster? I know that on the software side you
> specifically need nibbling tools, like mnib.
>
> >
> > If you have one of the SD-based systems, simply copy over the image
to
> the
> > SD and you're good! I don't use SD card, just original 1541 &
floppies,
> so
> > wouldn't have much help for that end of the process. But I'm sure
it's
> very
> > well documented by the vendor of the SD-card drive hardware - right?
=)
The SD card devices all use Ingo Korb's SD2IEC software, as far as I
know. The main source of documentation I know of is at
<https://www.sd2iec.de/gitweb/?p=sd2iec.git;a=blob;f=README;hb=HEAD>.
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
> > >
> > >> Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore floppy drive to a
> card
> > >> if so please enplane how it is done
> > >>
> > >
> > > You need a machine that supports both formats. Either add an SD
card
> to a
> > > Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling and software to read
the
> commodore disk on a PC.
>
>
--
Eric Christopherson
9:51 p.m.
FYI, it's really no great shakes to install the parallel port on the CBM
1541 drive, and likewise, to modify the XM-1541 cable to work with it.
Parts wise, all you need is a PC gameport header with the DB 15-pin port /
ribbon cable, and the cable from an old / disused / dos era PC game
controller.
The female connector on the header becomes the 1541-side connector. and the
game controller cable joins the CBM IEC cable on the DB25 parallel port
connector. Three are good online documents that have all of the diagrams.
You might find however, that one or two lines on your game controller cable
are not populated - so you'll have to juggle one, possibly two connections
to make a working setup.
I know several guys using old game controller cables for the parallel link,
and none report any problems.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:07 PM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
"OK, so the presence of that parallel port has
nothing to do with imaging
copy-protected disks, as I thought?
Now that I think about it, maybe some particular nibbling software (mnib or
the like) just requires the parallel port, probably for speed reasons or
whatever."
As I say, I'm only aware of using the second parallel port to speed disk
transfers, and in that capacity it's really excellent. If it has other
uses, that's new info to me.. since I never need to copy protected
originals, I've never looked into it.
Once the hardware is in place, open CBM auto-detects the presence of the
parallel connection as an "XP-1541" setup, vs. XM-1541 using only the
serial cable. No further configuration is required, it just reads & writes
at like 4-5X the speed.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Eric Christopherson <
echristopherson at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:17 AM, drlegendre .
<drlegendre at gmail.com>
wrote:
suggest
images
SD
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Eric Christopherson
I know of no way, probing only with the PC &
software, to determine
which
type of X-1541 cable you might have. However,
wiring diagrams for +all+
versions are freely available, and it shouldn't be any great effort to
open
up and - with the help of a multimeter - examine
a given cable and
compare
it against the various arrangements.
The 1541-side parallel port is totally optional, and it is not required
to
produce a working setup.
OK, so the presence of that parallel port has nothing to do with imaging
copy-protected disks, as I thought?
Now that I think about it, maybe some particular nibbling software (mnib
or
the like) just requires the parallel port, probably for speed reasons or
whatever.
However, when coupled with an appropriate cable,
drives equipped with the parallel connector operate several times faster
than even the fastest non-parallel setups. That said, any of the X-1541
setups will tend to run a fair bit faster than a genuine Commodre IEC
bus,
so unless you plan to do a +lot+ of transfer,
don't worry about going
the
parallel route.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Eric Christopherson <
echristopherson at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016, drlegendre . wrote:
> > I do a fair amount of cross-C64 work, but all of it's on Linux..
here's
> > what I can tell you, much of which
applies to MS/Win as well.
> >
> > First you need a method of reading the original C-64 floppy into a
.D64
(or
> other supported) image. This requires +four+ basic things - a PC, a
1541
> (or compatible) drive, a supporting software
suite and one of the
various
> > X-1541 cables. These days, with modern multi-tasking OSes, I'd > > using nothing but the XM-1541 cable
design. These may be purchased,
or,
> > with a little time & effort, built
up by the DIY-er.
>
> Does anyone know of a way, from Linux, to determine the particular
> species of one of those cables? I bought mine years ago and no longer
> remember which it is (and it isn't marked). I assume it's XM, since
I'm
> sure I intended it for use in Linux when I
bought it, but I'd like to
be
> sure.
>
> >
> > The XM-1541 cable connects the CBM 1541 drive to the parallel port
on
the
> > PC. The software suite (I highly suggest OpenCBM!) acts as a
userland
>
driver / utility suite, allowing you to read, write, format etc.
original
> > SS/SD disks on the 1541 drive. Once you have successfully read of
> > the disk(s), then it's up to you how you handle them..
>
> Somewhere I picked up the idea that for that you would need a cable
that
> connects, not only to the serial IEC port of
the drive, but to a
> parallel port which you must DIY on the drive. Would someone mind
> chiming in here -- I don't understand how that would do anything other
> than making the transfer faster? I know that on the software side you
> specifically need nibbling tools, like mnib.
>
> >
> > If you have one of the SD-based systems, simply copy over the image
to
> the
> > SD and you're good! I don't use SD card, just original 1541 &
floppies,
> so
> > wouldn't have much help for that end of the process. But I'm sure
it's
> very
> > well documented by the vendor of the SD-card drive hardware -
right? =)
The SD card devices all use Ingo Korb's SD2IEC software, as far as I
know. The main source of documentation I know of is at
<https://www.sd2iec.de/gitweb/?p=sd2iec.git;a=blob;f=README;hb=HEAD>.
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
> > >
> > >> Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore floppy drive to a
> card
> > >> if so please enplane how it is done
> > >>
> > >
> > > You need a machine that supports both formats. Either add an SD
card
> to a
> > > Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling and software to read
the
> >
commodore disk on a PC.
> >
> >
--
Eric Christopherson
22 Feb
22 Feb
8:53 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
I am assuming you have the iUEC
http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=490
Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore
floppy drive to a SD card
if so please enplane how it is done
You need a machine that supports both formats. Either add an SD card to a
Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling and software to read the
commodore disk on a PC.
From this page links tell you how to move files, etc.
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