16 Feb
2010
16 Feb
'10
2:20 p.m.
Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
In article <e1d20d631002151910m2cdf9866u4129242000590de6 at mail.gmail.com>,
William Donzelli <wdonzelli at gmail.com> writes:
es.
I think he's right though. In documentation I've read through, there
were green and amber models offered for the successive generations but
I don't recall having read that the VT100 or earlier models had
anything other than the white phosphor.
I think that is correct.
I've never seen, nor heard of anything but white phosphor VT100s.
*However*, there were clones made by other companies (unfortunately I
don't remember any names here), which looked pretty much exactly like
the VT100, and which did come with green phosphor.
Johnny
The VT102
User Guide on vt100.net shows that you could get a green
antiglare filter: <http://www.vt100.net/docs/vt102-ug/chapter10.html>
It is
also reasonable to think that DEC did a run of VT100oids with green tub 
17 Feb
17 Feb
1:27 p.m.
I've never seen, nor heard of anything but white
phosphor VT100s.
Many years ago I saw a VT100 with what was cal;ed a 'retrographics board'
fitted. This was a third-party add-on that connected to various
connectors on the normal VT100 logic board and which gave (for the time)
high resolution graphics. (No, I don't mean a VT105 board, this thing
allowed to you to set or clear each pixel).
Anyway, I seem to rememeb this unit had a green phosphor CRT in it. It
was almost caetainly not DEC-original, it was probably changed when the
retrographics boar dwas fitted.
As I've said before, these monochrome CRTs are pretty generic. And I
rember seeing adverts in Byte for replacement green or amber phospor CRTs
for various machines. It's very possible that some VT100s were modified.
-tony
3:40 p.m.
On Feb 17, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
That was called, I think, a "VT640" or something similar. It
wasn't a DEC product. I had one a very long time ago (late 1980s I
think) and it was dead. I don't know where it ended up.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I've never
seen, nor heard of anything but white phosphor VT100s.
Many years ago I saw a VT100 with what was cal;ed a 'retrographics
board'
fitted. This was a third-party add-on that connected to various
connectors on the normal VT100 logic board and which gave (for the
time)
high resolution graphics. (No, I don't mean a VT105 board, this thing
allowed to you to set or clear each pixel).
Anyway, I seem to rememeb this unit had a green phosphor CRT in it. It
was almost caetainly not DEC-original, it was probably changed when
the
retrographics boar dwas fitted.
4:08 p.m.
On Feb 17, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
That was called, I think, a "VT640" or something similar. It
wasn't a DEC product. I had one a very long time ago (late 1980s I
think) and it was dead. I don't know where it ended up.
It was partly a DEC product :-). The chassis,case, keyboard PSU, bideo
board and logic board were all stock DEC parts. There was a paddleboard
(non-DEC) in that bridging edge connector that intercepts the lines to
the RS232 conenctor. And another board full of chips (including IIRC a
Z80) to do the graphics.
I assumed from the name that this board could be retro-fitted into a
stock VT100.
-tony
I've
never seen, nor heard of anything but white phosphor VT100s.
Many years ago I saw a VT100 with what was cal;ed a 'retrographics
board'
fitted. This was a third-party add-on that connected to various
connectors on the normal VT100 logic board and which gave (for the
time)
high resolution graphics. (No, I don't mean a VT105 board, this thing
allowed to you to set or clear each pixel).
Anyway, I seem to rememeb this unit had a green phosphor CRT in it. It
was almost caetainly not DEC-original, it was probably changed when
the
retrographics boar dwas fitted.
7:12 p.m.
On Feb 17, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
That was called, I think, a "VT640" or something similar. It
wasn't a DEC product. I had one a very long time ago (late 1980s I
think) and it was dead. I don't know where it ended up.
It was partly a DEC product :-). The chassis,case, keyboard PSU,
bideo
board and logic board were all stock DEC parts. There was a
paddleboard
(non-DEC) in that bridging edge connector that intercepts the lines to
the RS232 conenctor. And another board full of chips (including IIRC a
Z80) to do the graphics.
I assumed from the name that this board could be retro-fitted into a
stock VT100.
Well, by "wasn't a DEC product" I was talking about the board,
which was sold to fit into existing VT100s. The one I had wasn't
installed in a terminal when I got it.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I've never
seen, nor heard of anything but white phosphor VT100s.
Many years ago I saw a VT100 with what was cal;ed a 'retrographics
board'
fitted. This was a third-party add-on that connected to various
connectors on the normal VT100 logic board and which gave (for the
time)
high resolution graphics. (No, I don't mean a VT105 board, this
thing
allowed to you to set or clear each pixel).
Anyway, I seem to rememeb this unit had a green phosphor CRT in
it. It
was almost caetainly not DEC-original, it was probably changed when
the
retrographics boar dwas fitted. 
18 Feb
18 Feb
5:21 a.m.
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Tony Duell wrote:
I have a VT100 with a Selenar Graphics 100 board, but I'm still lacking a
manual (especially a serivce manual).
Christian
That was
called, I think, a "VT640" or something similar. It
wasn't a DEC product. I had one a very long time ago (late 1980s I
think) and it was dead. I don't know where it ended up.
It was partly a DEC product :-). The chassis,case, keyboard PSU, bideo
board and logic board were all stock DEC parts. There was a paddleboard
(non-DEC) in that bridging edge connector that intercepts the lines to
the RS232 conenctor. And another board full of chips (including IIRC a
Z80) to do the graphics.
I assumed from the name that this board could be retro-fitted into a
stock VT100. 
8:21 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
On Feb 17,
2010, at 1:27 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
That was called, I think, a "VT640" or something similar. It
wasn't a DEC product. I had one a very long time ago (late 1980s I
think) and it was dead. I don't know where it ended up.
It was partly a DEC product :-). The chassis,case, keyboard PSU, bideo
board and logic board were all stock DEC parts. There was a paddleboard
(non-DEC) in that bridging edge connector that intercepts the lines to
the RS232 conenctor. And another board full of chips (including IIRC a
Z80) to do the graphics.
I assumed from the name that this board could be retro-fitted into a
stock VT100.
I've
never seen, nor heard of anything but white phosphor VT100s.
Many years ago I saw a VT100 with what was cal;ed a 'retrographics
board'
fitted. This was a third-party add-on that connected to various
connectors on the normal VT100 logic board and which gave (for the
time)
high resolution graphics. (No, I don't mean a VT105 board, this thing
allowed to you to set or clear each pixel).
Anyway, I seem to rememeb this unit had a green phosphor CRT in it. It
was almost caetainly not DEC-original, it was probably changed when
the
retrographics boar dwas fitted.
3:08 a.m.
New subject: Fairlight and VT640 [WAS: Re: VAX graphics]
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:40:31PM -0500, Dave McGuire wrote:
That was called, I think, a "VT640" or something similar. It
wasn't a DEC product. I had one a very long time ago (late 1980s I
think) and it was dead. I don't know where it ended up.
Yes, my googling tells me so :)
http://www.fairlightcmi.com/VT640-board-set-eBay-photos.html
Was this part of the fairlight synths, maybe a fairlight product?
/Pontus
3:18 a.m.
New subject: Fairlight and VT640 [WAS: Re: VAX graphics]
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 09:08:15AM +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Yes, my googling tells me so :)
http://www.fairlightcmi.com/VT640-board-set-eBay-photos.html
Was this part of the fairlight synths, maybe a fairlight product?
/Pontus
Ah, I was a bit fast to reply. It was made by "Digital Engineering, Inc"
here are some pics of the chassi:
http://www.fairlightcmi.com/NED-DEC-DE-VT640-terminal-eBay-photos.html
/P
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