6 Sep
1997
6 Sep
'97
6:39 p.m.
At 06:36 PM 06/09/97 +0000, you wrote:
stared, look, no cdrom. And I was told by her that her
husband
brought new system for her daughter at cool price of 8000 cdn and I
wondered about that price because her daughter needs a pc for her law
study at college, The typical use is WP use in that kind of area
even a $500-1000 base pentium system would fit very well for that!
Again with $8000, Easy to get 3 VERY decent P5 166/64mb/2.5GB/new
complete systems with truck loads of legal software for each
pc and a good laser printer or two to go with either two of them.
Sounds like a candidate for the "Most Inappropriate use of Computer
Hardware Award" to me. A WP, you could stick WP5.1 on an 8088 if it comes to
that.
Sounds like a member of the administration (who will remain nameless to
protect the moronic) at the university I waste money in. Just after
purchasing a spanking new Pentium 166 with 64mb and all the goodies,
including an ATI All in Wonder card (on our nickel I might add!), he asked
his secretary to scare up a new template for WP5.1, For this is all he used
it for! (where's my wailin' stick when I need it :)
as well. I want none of that ideas that Mr. Gates and
funny PnP,
winmodems that came out. I do not understand this.
I stay away from anything that uses "win" as a prefix. What, no jumpers?
Basically if Win95 can't get it to work on whatever IRQ or port that the
device wants, your screwed.
This win95 (blows) leads to other options which I am
looking at
linux. Linux is very promising and I am learning to use it, trying
to upgrade my old 2 4+ yr old 386 portables first also currently
learning on my other pentium 75 o/c'ed to 100 lunchbox. Then install
it on main pc when I feel more confident to put it to real use. :)
Looking for a UNIX like OS for you 386? Why don't you get MINIX? A lot
less overhead and pretty easy to set up. (not much out for it yet, put the
list grows everyday) You could even get a version of Xwindows for it, and
MINIX will run on an XT! (two versions, i86 and 386)
Speaking of UNIX-like OS's, anybody remember Sundown drives which came
loaded with Venix86? I believe a company called Unisource sold them. I
wonder if there may be a 'virgin' drive somewhere just waiting to be used... ;)
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6 Sep
6 Sep
8:57 p.m.
protect the moronic) at the university I waste money
in. Just after
purchasing a spanking new Pentium 166 with 64mb and all the goodies,
including an ATI All in Wonder card (on our nickel I might add!), he asked
his secretary to scare up a new template for WP5.1, For this is all he used
it for! (where's my wailin' stick when I need it :)
Now that is scary. Unfortunatly that is what a lot of people spend several
thousand to do. Me I've got a Mac SE/30 that I picked up for ~$50, fixed
it, and use it to run MS Word 5.1 (Note, Word is the only MS product I
use). It's a great machine for writing, and if you honestly need more you
probably need something running PageMaker or QuarkXPress.
If a person wants a computer for Word Processing they should pick up an old
Macintosh, preferably with at least a 68030/16 processor (basically the
third notch on the old speed meter). If you look around these systems are
dirt cheap, and anyone can use them. I got my Mom a Mac IIcx with monitor,
keyboard, mouse, and software for $60 at an auction earlier this year, she
loves it, and it does everything she needs.
This win95
(blows) leads to other options which I am looking at
linux. Linux is very promising and I am learning to use it, trying
to upgrade my old 2 4+ yr old 386 portables first also currently
learning on my other pentium 75 o/c'ed to 100 lunchbox. Then install
it on main pc when I feel more confident to put it to real use. :)
Looking for a UNIX like OS for you 386? Why don't you get MINIX? A lot
less overhead and pretty easy to set up. (not much out for it yet, put the
list grows everyday) You could even get a version of Xwindows for it, and
MINIX will run on an XT! (two versions, i86 and 386) 
7 Sep
7 Sep
1:24 a.m.
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Because RedHat or Debian will have support for just about
every hardware option he might ever need, has precompiled applications
in a simple to use and install format (.rpm or .dep), and simple X
based TK configuration utilities *somewhat* similar to Windows' control
panel.
Minux is pretty cool, and until Linux-Lite comes out, the only
option for a free Unix like OS (that I know of) on the 8088/80286.
But from what I saw, he has at least a 386. I've got a 386DX-20
running Linux performing IP-Masquerading (in kernel IP translation -
which minux most definitely *won't* do) and routing, name services for
my internal network, a small web server for documentation (to other
internal machines), and as a slow SCSI backup server to an old Exabyte
(which was the free find of the century, I might add) and am perfectly
happy with it's performance and utility. It's simple to install,
simple to configure, and once it's done I can leave it up and running
without concern. For example:
maynard@jmg (129) $ uptime
9:13am up 174 days, 19:18, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.07, 0.01
This is an old 486DX40 *with an old flaky VLB*, sitting
against a high speed line out in Cincinnati. I'm 1000 miles away, yet
I can maintain the box and let it sit to do it's stuff. This is not
to say that Minux wouldn't provide the same remote maintenance
capabilities as Linux, just to say that I'm pleased with my choice and
it's suited my purposes well.
Good luck, I can most certainly attest to Linux giving life to
old hardware again... but not ancient hardware. For the moment,
definitely use Minux for that.
J. Maynard Gelinas
Although I wonder if anyone out there is actually going to
finish the Sun3x Linux port - it looks like the NetBSD Sun3x movement
is dead in the water.
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 04:39:57 -0200
From: Alan Richards <alanr(a)morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Win95 + irritable user WAS: Re: FS: Mac Plus
At 06:36 PM 06/09/97 +0000, you wrote:
[snip]
This win95 (blows) leads to other options which I
am looking at
linux. Linux is very promising and I am learning to use it, trying
to upgrade my old 2 4+ yr old 386 portables first also currently
learning on my other pentium 75 o/c'ed to 100 lunchbox. Then install
it on main pc when I feel more confident to put it to real use. :)
Looking for a UNIX like OS for you 386? Why don't you get MINIX? A lot
less overhead and pretty easy to set up. (not much out for it yet, put the
list grows everyday) You could even get a version of Xwindows for it, and
MINIX will run on an XT! (two versions, i86 and 386)
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7:22 a.m.
Although I wonder if anyone out there is actually
going to
finish the Sun3x Linux port - it looks like the NetBSD Sun3x movement
is dead in the water.
Damn, I hope it's not dead. I just picked up a 3/80 (8mb, diskless) and a
type 4 keyboard/mouse. (No monitor, but I have an old Hitachi that I hope
may be
compatible.)
Anyway, as soon as I straighten out and "Invalid IDPROM" message, I was
hoping to put up either SunOS or NetBSD.
BTW, anyone have a suggestion as to which is better?
<<<John>>>
3:32 a.m.
Alan Richards wrote:
Off topic, but I have always been able to get Plug-and-Pray stuff to work,
but then again, I have religion :). The order things get installed in makes
a difference as well as knowing how to use the brain damaged interface
schemes.
as well. I
want none of that ideas that Mr. Gates and funny PnP,
winmodems that came out. I do not understand this.
I stay away from anything that uses "win" as a prefix. What, no jumpers?
Basically if Win95 can't get it to work on whatever IRQ or port that the
device wants, your screwed.
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