17 May
2010
17 May
'10
11:42 a.m.
At 23:07 -0500 5/15/10, Fred wrote:
Could somebody please give Tony a ride to it?
Tony,
GO!
Seconded. Most useful post I've seen in weeks. Where do I send
contributions? Assuming we can make this a zero-sum game (go vs. not
go) for Tony's finances, I'd like to do that.
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17 May
17 May
1:58 p.m.
On 05/17/2010 16:42, Mark Tapley wrote:
At 23:07 -0500 5/15/10, Fred wrote:
I believe Tony is in the London area and i'm willing to provide transport.
Roger
Could somebody please give Tony a ride to it?
Tony,
GO!
Seconded. Most useful post I've seen in weeks. Where do I send
contributions? Assuming we can make this a zero-sum game (go vs. not
go) for Tony's finances, I'd like to do that. 
7:28 p.m.
>Could somebody please give Tony a ride to it?
>Tony,
>GO!
On Mon, 17 May 2010, Mark Tapley wrote:
Seconded. Most useful post I've seen in weeks.
Where do I send
contributions? Assuming we can make this a zero-sum game (go vs. not
go) for Tony's finances, I'd like to do that.
Tony,
If you don't want to go for reasons other than financial, go ahead and say
so. We will respect your right to have a life.
But, if the reasons ARE financial, many of us would see your attendance
and participation as being a very good thing for classic comuters.
If you give us an estimate of what it would cost, and a Paypal account
name, maybe nobody will give big money, but LOTS of us would be glad to
chip in a few shekels.
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18 May
18 May
3:21 p.m.
On 5/17/10 7:28 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
Oh, I have a life. It's zero-player and infinite.
*
*
***
I am pretty sure I was once (accurately) quoted as saying "What's a
social life?" Draw your own conclusions.
-tony
If you don't want to go for reasons other
than financial, go ahead and say
so. We will respect your right to have a life.
...or NOT have one. ;) 
17 May
17 May
8:10 p.m.
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
Tony,
If you don't want to go for reasons other than financial, go ahead and say
so. ?We will respect your right to have a life.
But, if the reasons ARE financial, many of us would see your attendance
and participation as being a very good thing for classic comuters.
If you give us an estimate of what it would cost, and a Paypal account
name, maybe nobody will give big money, but LOTS of us would be glad to
chip in a few shekels.
Strongly concur.
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18 May
18 May
2:51 p.m.
>Could somebody please give Tony a ride to
it?
>Tony,
>GO!
On Mon, 17 May 2010, Mark Tapley wrote:
Seconded. Most useful post I've seen in
weeks. Where do I send
contributions? Assuming we can make this a zero-sum game (go vs. not
go) for Tony's finances, I'd like to do that.
Tony,
If you don't want to go for reasons other than financial, go ahead and say
so. We will respect your right to have a life.
But, if the reasons ARE financial, many of us would see your attendance
and participation as being a very good thing for classic comuters. from me by e-mail. The fact that I don't have a
digital camera is
irrelevant, since I won't have anyhting to show.
SO what is the point?
-tony
5:24 p.m.
I did say the resons were _most_ financial. Which is
not the same as
'entirely' :-)
OK
We'd be glad to help with the financial component, but I don't think that
we can do much else.
More seriosuly, if I could _participate_ I would. But
I can't.
. . .
I seriously think that if I attended a VCF just as a spectator I would be
left thinking 'what might have been' and it wouldn't make me at all
happy.
Well, maybe next time. Let's hope that they do a bit more in announcing
it then.
19 May
19 May
3:32 p.m.
I did say the resons were _most_ financial. Which
is not the same as
'entirely' :-)
OK
We'd be glad to help with the financial component, but I don't think that
we can do much else. More seriosuly, if I could _participate_ I would.
But I can't.
. . .
I seriously think that if I attended a VCF just as a spectator I would be
left thinking 'what might have been' and it wouldn't make me at all
happy.
Well, maybe next time. Let's hope that they do a bit more in announcing it then.
I am still wondering whre it was organised and announced. Why was there
not a 'call for machines' on this list, for example? Darn it, if you
_really_ wanted me to come, why didn't somebody e-mail me?
And who decided to hold it at BP, and why? I agree with Philip, it is
hardly an ideal venue.
-tony
11:35 a.m.
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I did say the resons were _most_ financial. Which is not the same as
'entirely' :-)
More seriosuly, if I could _participate_ I would. But I can't.
OK, well, ISTM that there's an obvious question here that has not been asked.
Please tell me if the following is not a fair summary...
You said you couldn't afford to attend.
You've been offered a lift and a whip-round to pay membership and so
on, but that is apparently not enough. You said that you see no point
in attending in person if you can't bring along a machine or machines
to exhibit.
So, as a thought experiment at this point in time, what would you wish
to bring along? What space would you want or need to properly display
it? And how much space would you need to transport it?
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>Could somebody please give Tony a ride to
it?
>Tony,
>GO!
On Mon, 17 May 2010, Mark Tapley wrote:
Seconded. Most useful post I've seen in
weeks. Where do I send
contributions? Assuming we can make this a zero-sum game (go vs. not
go) for Tony's finances, I'd like to do that.
Tony,
If you don't want to go for reasons other than financial, go ahead and say
so. ?We will respect your right to have a life.
But, if the reasons ARE financial, many of us would see your attendance
and participation as being a very good thing for classic comuters.
3:49 p.m.
You said you couldn't afford to attend.
No, I said I wouldn't be attending for several reasons, mainly financial.
That is not the same thing at all. I do not consider it to be a sensible
use of my (very limited) money to attend an event that I am not going to
enjoy.
Seriously, if you have spare money, give it to a charity., Me attending
VCF-UK is not essential to anyones life. Having clean water (for example)
is, and there are far too many people in the world without that.
You've been offered a lift and a whip-round to pay membership and so
on, but that is apparently not enough. You said that you see no point
in attending in person if you can't bring along a machine or machines
to exhibit.
So, as a thought experiment at this point in time, what would you wish
to bring along? What space would you want or need to properly display
it? And how much space would you need to transport it?
It is far too late now both (I guess) for booking space at VCF and for me
to prepare anything. I would have to select a machine (prefereably one
that few others were goign to demonstrate) check it over, sort out some
fun demonstrations, make sure I understood it totally (just in case
somebody asks an awkward question, etc). That takes a lot of time.
As foir what machines? Well, maybe a selection of early HP desktop
calculators. Maybe a PERQ or 2. I susepct others will have PDPs and all
the common micros...
-tony
20 May
20 May
1:35 p.m.
> So, as a thought experiment at this point in
time, what would you wish
> to bring along? What space would you want or need to properly display
> it? And how much space would you need to transport it?
[...]
As foir what machines? Well, maybe a selection of
early HP desktop
calculators. Maybe a PERQ or 2. I susepct others will have PDPs and all
Possible the HP9830 with some early HPIB peripherals.
Or of course a Philips P800 machine. The P850 would take some getting out
(it's a rack cabinet with its paper tape punch and reader), but the P851
or P854 are a lot more moveabl.
the common micros...
But it's alla cademic, alas.
-tony
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