26 Aug
2005
26 Aug
'05
6:43 p.m.
All:
Does anyone have an ASCII/terminal font for Windows that has only
the standard ASCII chars (32-127) which are also replicated at the extended
address (i.e., 160-255) instead of the PC OEM graphics chars? I can't find a
way to force 7-bit ASCII chars in Tera Term so when I use it with my Altair
I frequently get PC graphics characters on the screen.
I have a font editing program but you have to edit each character
individually.
Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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27 Aug
27 Aug
8:09 a.m.
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Richard A. Cini wrote:
All:
Does anyone have an ASCII/terminal font for Windows that has only
the standard ASCII chars (32-127) which are also replicated at the extended
address (i.e., 160-255) instead of the PC OEM graphics chars? I can't find a
way to force 7-bit ASCII chars in Tera Term so when I use it with my Altair
I frequently get PC graphics characters on the screen.
I have a font editing program but you have to edit each character
individually.
Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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Can you set up your terminal programs serial interface for 7 bit characters?
Thats a lot easier than messing with fonts...
Peter Wallace
8:32 a.m.
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Richard A. Cini wrote:
Does anyone have an ASCII/terminal font for Windows
that has only
the standard ASCII chars (32-127) which are also replicated at the extended
address (i.e., 160-255) instead of the PC OEM graphics chars? I can't find a
way to force 7-bit ASCII chars in Tera Term so when I use it with my Altair
I frequently get PC graphics characters on the screen.
What the heck is sending ASCII characters > 127 to your terminal and why?
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8:55 a.m.
My Altair is configured for 8N1 as is the terminal (a Windows PC). For some
reason when I LIST a BASIC program I see >127 on some characters (mostly
punctuation). Typing in produces the right screen characters.
Maybe there's something else wrong?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Peter C. Wallace
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 11:38 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Anyone got a plain ASCII Windows font?
What the heck is sending ASCII characters > 127 to
your terminal and
why?
Sending 7 bits + parity and receiver expecting 8 bit characters?
Peter Wallace
9:05 a.m.
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Richard A. Cini wrote:
My Altair is configured for 8N1 as is the terminal (a
Windows PC). For some
reason when I LIST a BASIC program I see >127 on some characters (mostly
punctuation). Typing in produces the right screen characters.
Maybe there's something else wrong?
Maybe BASIC only expected to send 7 bit characters so has garbage in bit 7...
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Peter C. Wallace
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 11:38 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Anyone got a plain ASCII Windows font?
Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics
What the heck is sending ASCII characters >
127 to your terminal and
why?
Sending 7 bits + parity and receiver expecting 8 bit characters?
Peter Wallace
11:02 a.m.
That's what I think but I can't find a setting in Tera Term to ignore bit 7.
So I figured I'd do it by brute force -- replacing the OEM font.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Peter C. Wallace
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 12:05 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: Anyone got a plain ASCII Windows font?
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Richard A. Cini wrote:
My Altair is configured for 8N1 as is the terminal (a
Windows PC). For
some reason when I LIST a BASIC program I see >127 on some characters
(mostly punctuation). Typing in produces the right screen characters.
Maybe there's something else wrong?
Maybe BASIC only expected to send 7 bit characters so has garbage in bit
7...
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Peter C. Wallace
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 11:38 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Anyone got a plain ASCII Windows font?
Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics
What the heck is sending ASCII characters >
127 to your terminal and
why?
Sending 7 bits + parity and receiver expecting 8 bit characters?
Peter Wallace
11:51 a.m.
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Richard A. Cini wrote:
That's what I think but I can't find a setting
in Tera Term to ignore bit 7.
So I figured I'd do it by brute force -- replacing the OEM font.
You could replace your terminal program to something less retarded :)
http://www.siconic.com/download/utility/PCPLUS.ZIP
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28 Aug
28 Aug
8:26 a.m.
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:51:02 -0700 (PDT)
Vintage Computer Festival <vcf at siconic.com> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Richard A. Cini wrote:
I've never heard anybody refer to Tera Term as 'retarded' before, but I
guess there's always a first.
That's what I think but I can't find a
setting in Tera Term to
ignore bit 7.
So I figured I'd do it by brute force -- replacing the OEM font.
You could replace your terminal program to something less retarded :)
http://www.siconic.com/download/utility/PCPLUS.ZIP
8:35 a.m.
Hey, it was done with a smily-face, so it's OK.
Personally, I prefer Procomm for my DOS needs and either Hyterterm or Tera
Term for Windows needs.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Scott Stevens
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:26 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Anyone got a plain ASCII Windows font?
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:51:02 -0700 (PDT)
Vintage Computer Festival <vcf at siconic.com> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Richard A. Cini wrote:
I've never heard anybody refer to Tera Term as 'retarded' before, but I
guess there's always a first.
That's what I think but I can't find a
setting in Tera Term to
ignore bit 7.
So I figured I'd do it by brute force -- replacing the OEM font.
You could replace your terminal program to something less retarded :)
http://www.siconic.com/download/utility/PCPLUS.ZIP
10:31 a.m.
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Richard A. Cini wrote:
Hey, it was done with a smily-face, so it's OK.
Personally, I prefer Procomm for my DOS needs and either Hyterterm or Tera
Term for Windows needs.
I replaced the PCPLUS.ZIP in:
http://www.siconic.com/download/utility/
...with a complete version that includes the setup utility. This is a
complete copy of ProComm Plus for DOS. If you downloaded this previously
and are using it you'll probably want to replace it with this version.
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5:56 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Richard A. Cini
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:36 AM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Anyone got a plain ASCII Windows font?
Hey, it was done with a smily-face, so it's OK.
Personally, I prefer Procomm for my DOS needs and either
Hyterterm or Tera Term for Windows needs.
Procomm had a scripting language that was really cool. I remember once
setting up 5 or 6 older PCs with Procom to watch the console ports on a
bunch of ATM routers that were having a problem. We would watch for any of
them to show certain symptoms on the console ports and reboot the router if
it showed a failure. It kept the network running in a huge seimconductor
wafer mfg. facility and bought us some time while the manufacturer figured
out what the problem was.
Gil
6:36 p.m.
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Gil Carrick wrote:
Procomm had a scripting language that was really cool.
I remember once
setting up 5 or 6 older PCs with Procom to watch the console ports on a
bunch of ATM routers that were having a problem. We would watch for any of
them to show certain symptoms on the console ports and reboot the router if
it showed a failure. It kept the network running in a huge seimconductor
wafer mfg. facility and bought us some time while the manufacturer figured
out what the problem was.
Yes, the scripting is very powerful. You could even develop a BBS system
with it. The version I just updated in my downloads directory has the
full scripting capability, including online manual for the scripting
language as well as a whole bunch of sample scripts to do various useful
things.
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8:51 a.m.
John Foust wrote:
What, no fans of the venerable Pro-YAM?
http://www.omen.com/
- John
I tend to use Telix for DOS. Bootable DOS + Telix <= HD Floppy capacity.
Peace... Sridhar
9:23 a.m.
All,
On 8/31/05, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
I tend to use Telix for DOS. Bootable DOS + Telix <= HD Floppy capacity.
Peace... Sridhar
I have the exact setup running - elderly LCD laptop running as a serial
console for a somewhat newer machine. Draws < 10W. Boots from a single 720K
floppy.
Simon
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12:10 p.m.
On 8/31/05, Simon Fryer <fryers at gmail.com> wrote:
I have the exact setup running - elderly LCD laptop
running as a serial
console for a somewhat newer machine. Draws < 10W. Boots from a single 720K
floppy.
Mine is a Zenith 8-bit laptop w/dual 720K pop-up floppies w/DOS and
Kermit... I use either the built-in serial port for direct connect or
a Xircom PE3 pocket ethernet adapter w/DOS packet drive when I want to
telnet to the far end.
It would be completely portable if I were to rebuild the NiCd battery
pack and find a place to tap +5VDC off for the PE3 (I have a keyboard
dongle pigtail, but no keyboard port on the Zenith). I've
contemplated building the PE3 inside the case where the factory modem
would go.
It's only slightly larger than my Planar ELT-320 dumb terminal (which
needs a source of +12VDC at a couple of amps).
-ethan
27 Aug
27 Aug
11:48 a.m.
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Richard A. Cini wrote:
My Altair is configured for 8N1 as is the terminal (a
Windows PC). For some
reason when I LIST a BASIC program I see >127 on some characters (mostly
punctuation). Typing in produces the right screen characters.
Maybe there's something else wrong?
That doesn't seem reasonable so I would be inclined to believe there is
something else wrong.
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9:57 a.m.
What the heck is sending ASCII characters > 127 to
your terminal and
why?
<pedant>
There is no such thing as an ASCII character >127; ASCII is a 7-bit
code and thus has just codes 0 through 127.
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29 Aug
6:17 a.m.
>>>> "Vintage" == Vintage
Computer Festival <vcf at siconic.com> writes:
Vintage> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Richard A. Cini wrote:
> Does anyone have an ASCII/terminal font for
Windows that has only
> the standard ASCII chars (32-127) which are also replicated at the
> extended address (i.e., 160-255) instead of the PC OEM graphics
> chars? I can't find a way to force 7-bit ASCII chars in Tera Term
> so when I use it with my Altair I frequently get PC graphics
> characters on the screen.
Vintage> What the heck is sending ASCII characters > 127 to your
Vintage> terminal and why?
Sometimes you run into ancient systems that think the 8th bit is
supposed to be parity, or should always be set, or some foolishness
like that. 2BSD is another example...
paul
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