Bear in mind that most of the free programs are written in 8080 or Z80 assembler; they're not going to move to something else readily, if at all. Logan. The name doesn't ring a bell. My immediate family is from the Duchesne area. I have a half-brother living in the Ogden area (Gerry Ivie). Definitely the case for us bearing the name 'Ivie'. AFAIK, all the 'Ivie's in the US (including the 'Ivey's; there was some confusion about the spelling a while ago) are related. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu