2 Jun
2005
2 Jun
'05
10:35 a.m.
I'm currently seeking to purchase a complete BBC Domesday system with the
LVROM player, trackball, discs, manuals, and of course the BBC Master
system with the appropriate hardware.
I'd also consider pieces of one (especially the manuals) but the entire
setup is my main preference.
This is for a research project I'm currently undertaking and I am willing
to compensate handsomely. I'd also consider a short- to medium-term loan.
This is basically directed at the blokes in the UK as that is obviously
the most likely place for one to show up.
If someone has one or perhaps a lead on a system, please contact me
directly.
Thanks!
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2 Jun
2 Jun
10:47 a.m.
I'm currently seeking to purchase a complete BBC
Domesday system with the
LVROM player, trackball, discs, manuals, and of course the BBC Master
system with the appropriate hardware.
Two things.
1. Isn't that a "Doomsday System"
2. Good Luck!!! I'd say the odds are against you.
Zane
11:11 a.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
Two things.
1. Isn't that a "Doomsday System"
Er, no. It's spelt "Domesday". Here's an informative page about
the system:
http://www.atsf.co.uk/dottext/domesday.html
I saw one running in the Science Museum (London) a few years ago;
anybody know if it's still there?
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John Honniball
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14 Jun
14 Jun
6:23 a.m.
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 07:11:43PM +0100, John Honniball wrote:
Er, no. It's spelt "Domesday".
Here's an informative page about
the system:
http://www.atsf.co.uk/dottext/domesday.html
Which also contains an online version.
I saw one running in the Science Museum (London) a few
years ago;
anybody know if it's still there?
I've just popped into the Science Museum (I work next door at Imperial
College) and it's still there, running the community disc.
For anyone who wants to visit it's on level 1 in the "surveying"
exhibit, on the right hand side of the balcony overlooking the hall
containing The Rocket train. The museum's free to get into BTW. It's
labelled "Example of a Geographical Information System". The BBC micro's
hidden away inside the stand sadly, only the trackball is exposed.
Asher.
2 Jun
2 Jun
11:26 a.m.
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Zane H. Healy wrote:
No, destroying the world is my OTHER project that I manage in my copious
spare time. I discuss that project on the Classic Megalomaniac mailing
list.
I'm
currently seeking to purchase a complete BBC Domesday system with the
LVROM player, trackball, discs, manuals, and of course the BBC Master
system with the appropriate hardware.
Two things.
1. Isn't that a "Doomsday System" 2. Good Luck!!! I'd say the odds are against you.
Here in the US, absolutely.
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11:50 a.m.
Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Zane H. Healy wrote:
No, destroying the world is my OTHER project that I manage in my copious
spare time. I discuss that project on the Classic Megalomaniac mailing
list.
OK, I'd obviously forgotten where the name came from. A quick google search
refreshes my memory on the subject and shows me that finding one might not
be quite as difficult as I'd first thought. It's still going to be pretty
hard to find one I imagine.
For people wondering what on earth this is all about, here is an article.
http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/issue36/tna/
Zane
I'm
currently seeking to purchase a complete BBC Domesday system with the
LVROM player, trackball, discs, manuals, and of course the BBC Master
system with the appropriate hardware.
Two things.
1. Isn't that a "Doomsday System" 2. Good Luck!!! I'd say the odds are against
you.
Here in the US, absolutely. 
10:55 a.m.
I'm currently seeking to purchase a complete BBC Domesday system with the
LVROM player, trackball, discs, manuals, and of course the BBC Master
system with the appropriate hardware.
If someone has one or perhaps a lead on a system,
please contact me
directly.
I have one disc, with a small chip in the outer edge :-/ I did have the
player, but it was knackered.
There used to be a complete system at Portlethen Academy, a few miles
south of Aberdeen. That was in 1999. It might be gone.
Gordon.
11:46 a.m.
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 10:35 -0700, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
I'm currently seeking to purchase a complete BBC
Domesday system with the
LVROM player, trackball, discs, manuals, and of course the BBC Master
system with the appropriate hardware.
I'd also consider pieces of one (especially the manuals) but the entire
setup is my main preference.
I scanned the user guide a while back - I think I've got all the set
here in paper form though (including the service manual for the players)
which are on my "to scan" list...
This is for a research project I'm currently
undertaking and I am willing
to compensate handsomely. I'd also consider a short- to medium-term loan.
Shipping will be a nightmare, and those LVROM players do *not* travel
well (they don't sit there doing nothing very well either; I've never
known any bit of kit so prone to breaking down!)
If it's the data you're interested in, there is the CAMiLEON project who
have it all converted from original disks:
http://www.si.umich.edu/CAMILEON/
Paul Wheatley whose contact address is on the site is a helpful chap;
I've dealt with him a few times in the past. Last I knew a few months
ago there were huge issues of copyright though, so I don't know how much
help they could be. Might be worth a try if the data's the important bit
though.
If someone has one or perhaps a lead on a system,
please contact me directly.
I don't know of any for sale at present but will keep an ear to the
ground. Worst case we've got one at the museum and I've got one at home,
but I've already had to fix faults on the players serveral times -
getting them across the pond intact would be next to impossible I
think! :-(
cheers
Jules
11:55 a.m.
I don't know of any for sale at present but will
keep an ear to the
ground. Worst case we've got one at the museum and I've got one at home,
but I've already had to fix faults on the players serveral times -
getting them across the pond intact would be next to impossible I
think! :-(
I somehow suspect that arrangements would need to be made to take fly over,
and bring them back as "Carry On" luggage. Something that in this day and
age is likely to be easier said than done :^(
Zane
12:27 p.m.
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 11:55 -0700, Zane H. Healy wrote:
The players are pretty big - about four times the size of a DVD player
(at least), not to mention quite heavy (for what they are). I doubt
they'd be allowed on as carry-on luggage.
It's the vibration I'd be bothered about rather than any temperature
issue though. The quality of the solder work on all the players I've
been inside is about the worst I've seen on any electronic equipment,
plus they're constructed internally with a large backplane into which
about ten PCBs are plugged. Then there are lots of interconnecting
cables, plus a seperate 'slice' on the base with the SCSI interface
board plus genlock / mixer boards. Lots of places where connections can
fail!
Most schools in the UK had at least one of these setups at one point; we
took one over to the CGE show in London last year and it was amazing how
popular it was! They're fascinating bits of equipment to sit there and
mess around with (although the graphical UI is really showing its age
and isn't the most intuitive thing ever!)
cheers
Jules
I don't
know of any for sale at present but will keep an ear to the
ground. Worst case we've got one at the museum and I've got one at home,
but I've already had to fix faults on the players serveral times -
getting them across the pond intact would be next to impossible I
think! :-(
I somehow suspect that arrangements would need to be made to take fly over,
and bring them back as "Carry On" luggage. Something that in this day and
age is likely to be easier said than done :^(
1:39 p.m.
The players are pretty big - about four times the size
of a DVD player
(at least), not to mention quite heavy (for what they are). I doubt
they'd be allowed on as carry-on luggage.
It's the vibration I'd be bothered about rather than any temperature
issue though. The quality of the solder work on all the players I've
been inside is about the worst I've seen on any electronic equipment,
I never even considered temperatures, I'm simply thinking of how non-carryon
luggage is treated. You don't want some idiot deciding to see how far into
the pile the box can be thrown.
As for the size, it doesn't look that much larger than a standard Laserdisc
player (though it looks a little thicker than most).
Zane
2:16 p.m.
Hi there ,
I have a fully functional system including community , national,
ecodisk,volcanos and the countryside disks. It has taken me some time to
get this up and running and would concur with the thoughts re transport.
The lv rom is 43*40*16 cm and is very heavy and fragile I would not like
to carry this on even if allowed . You also need a bbc master including
the second processor and scsi interface card again fragile items to pack
then you come to the disk packs the standard package is large and heavy
approx 34*34*6. I think the cost of transporting would be prohibitive
and the risk of damage huge.
Regards graeme
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Subject: Re: Seeking BBC Domesday system
The players are pretty big - about four times the size
of a DVD player
(at least), not to mention quite heavy (for what they
are). I doubt
they'd be allowed on as carry-on luggage.
It's the vibration I'd be bothered about rather than any temperature
issue though. The quality of the solder work on all the players I've
been inside is about the worst I've seen on any electronic equipment,
I never even considered temperatures, I'm simply thinking of how
non-carryon luggage is treated. You don't want some idiot deciding to
see how far into the pile the box can be thrown.
As for the size, it doesn't look that much larger than a standard
Laserdisc player (though it looks a little thicker than most).
Zane
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3:23 p.m.
luggage is treated. You don't want some idiot
deciding to see how far
into
the pile the box can be thrown.
Which is what they did to a TRS80 Model 3 my missus brought back from the
US for me....I think they juggled with it first before throwing it, given
the state it was in when I got it.
As for the size, it doesn't look that much larger
than a standard
Laserdisc
player (though it looks a little thicker than most).
The thickness is down to the SCSI layer underneath the main player.
They're very sensitive to heat as well, even my good working one decided
to throw a hissy fit at the last exhibition I did 2 weeks ago which meant
I had to manually spin the platter at exactly the right time to get it to
spin up since the electronics couldn't do that themselves :o\
Of course, these days there's a fairly good web version but I can't find
the email I've got that has the URL......typical....
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Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UKs biggest home computer collection?
3:32 p.m.
Replying to meself here but...
Of course, these days there's a fairly good web
version but I can't find
the email I've got that has the URL......typical....
http://www.domesday1986.com/
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adrian/witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UKs biggest home computer collection?
3 Jun
3 Jun
12:51 a.m.
On 2 Jun, 2005, at 22:39, Zane H. Healy wrote:
With the "security" they have implemented in the US these days, I would
strongly advise against taking any unique device on a flight there.
There are too many stories of devices being tampered with, dismantled
and ruined by trained monkeys.
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-bv
The players
are pretty big - about four times the size of a DVD player
(at least), not to mention quite heavy (for what they are). I doubt
they'd be allowed on as carry-on luggage.
It's the vibration I'd be bothered about rather than any temperature
issue though. The quality of the solder work on all the players I've
been inside is about the worst I've seen on any electronic equipment,
I never even considered temperatures, I'm simply thinking of how
non-carryon
luggage is treated. You don't want some idiot deciding to see how far
into
the pile the box can be thrown.
As for the size, it doesn't look that much larger than a standard
Laserdisc
player (though it looks a little thicker than most).
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