22 Dec
2002
22 Dec
'02
12:06 p.m.
Finding old computers at the second-hand stores is getting difficult now but
I did goto one place and look through some software boxes they had. Lots of
DOS based stuff and ... OS/2 ! I got:
warp server
IBM training book and VCR tape for 2.1
warp 4 with mic
faxworks pro
galactic civilizations still wrapped
warp connect
DB2 single user
hyperaccess
OS2 system sounds
IBM attachpak for OS/2
I left behind warp red box but I'm glad I found it all.
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22 Dec
22 Dec
12:20 p.m.
SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote:
Finding old computers at the second-hand stores is
getting difficult now
Yes it is. My local source has been Goodwill, but the only whole
computers I see anymore are 030 Macs. They must be tossing the PC's,
and I've never seen anything really serious. I did find a newish Best
Data 56sx modem today, However. It was in a 14.4 SupraModem box. Works
great, and was only about $7.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
23 Dec
23 Dec
12:43 a.m.
Same problem here. I found out that some of the thrifts here are bulking
selling ALL the computer stuff to dealers before they hit the floor. I have
asked how do I get to purchase the older items but so far no luck.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Fernandez" <fernande(a)internet1.net>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: New software acquisitions
SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote:
Finding old computers at the second-hand stores
is getting difficult now
Yes it is. My local source has been Goodwill, but the only whole
computers I see anymore are 030 Macs. They must be tossing the PC's,
and I've never seen anything really serious. I did find a newish Best
Data 56sx modem today, However. It was in a 14.4 SupraModem box. Works
great, and was only about $7.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
22 Dec
22 Dec
1:22 p.m.
galactic civilizations still wrapped
This game is probably the best reason to have an OS/2 system in this day
and age. If you like "Master of Orion" the odds are you'll like it!
Zane
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| | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
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5:03 p.m.
--- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
I heard about it back in the heyday of OS/2. From what I read, it looked
like a great game.
Love to locate a copy for myself (I already have OS/2 Warp, but never
installed it).
Good find!
-ethan
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galactic
civilizations still wrapped
This game is probably the best reason to have an OS/2 system in this day
and age. If you like "Master of Orion" the odds are you'll like it!
23 Dec
23 Dec
2:12 a.m.
--- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
I heard about it back in the heyday of OS/2. From what I read, it looked
like a great game.
Love to locate a copy for myself (I already have OS/2 Warp, but never
installed it).
Good find!
Last time I checked, a windows version of galciv is in beta test.
http://www.galciv.com/
Eric
galactic
civilizations still wrapped
This game is probably the best reason to have an OS/2 system in this day
and age. If you like "Master of Orion" the odds are you'll like it! 
4:56 a.m.
New subject: Atari PCH204
Hi all,
Xmas greetings from a slightly warmer and definitely more damp than last
week UK :)
Having moved my entire collection back to the house over the weekend (which
is a clever thing to do with cracked/broken ribs I'm sure) I rediscovered my
Atari PC-1 and its external drive - the PCH204. Google turns up nothing
about this drive apart from an ebay auction back in 2000 and a polish
newsgroup, so does anyone know anything about it and it's (presumably) SASI
interface for the PC-1? All the bumf I can find on the PC-1 says there was
no expandability, but I've got an expanded one :)
Any help gratefully received.
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
6:40 a.m.
New subject: Atari PCH204
Having moved my entire collection back to the house
over the weekend (which
is a clever thing to do with cracked/broken ribs I'm sure) I rediscovered my
Atari PC-1 and its external drive - the PCH204. Google turns up nothing
about this drive apart from an ebay auction back in 2000 and a polish
newsgroup, so does anyone know anything about it and it's (presumably) SASI
interface for the PC-1? All the bumf I can find on the PC-1 says there was
no expandability, but I've got an expanded one :)
Well, the first thing to come in mind is a SH-204, the 20 MB hard
disk for the Atari ST, connected 19 Pin interface. basicly a beat
up SCSI. A somewhat wiered concept, because the drivecontrollers
did rebuild a full figured SCSI interface again to controll the
disks (well, except the said SH 204, which could only address SCSI
unit 0). The Megadrive 44 could select the ID ... nice afterthought,
the Megadrive 44 (and SH-205) case was exactly the one used to house
the PC-1 :)
Now, I might be wrong, but I remember the PC-1 to have a ACSI
interface ... or at least atari was thinking about that.
Gruss
H.
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4:34 p.m.
New subject: Atari PCH204
Hi Witchy,
I've got a stack of the buggers in my storage room. Basically they were
intended for use on the PC Series of computers. Interestingly enough,
Atari had about 3 different versions of them, one with an Atari ASCI
interface, others SASI and another straight MFM. Inside the PC-1's is an
ISA compatible set of headers and you plugged an adaptec controller card in
and it would have an external interface port, one had straight pinouts going
to a ribbon cable into the PCH204 with an internal MFM controller. I
don't think Atari really knew which way that had wanted to go at the time
and while it was a very big and bold project, they canned the PC-1 just a
few months after its launch realizing it was too little too late in
releasing an XT-ish clone in 87 and they concentrated on their 286, 386 and
486sx clones.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Witchy" <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 12:53 PM
Subject: Atari PCH204
Hi all,
Xmas greetings from a slightly warmer and definitely more damp than last
week UK :)
Having moved my entire collection back to the house over the weekend
(which
is a clever thing to do with cracked/broken ribs
I'm sure) I rediscovered
my
Atari PC-1 and its external drive - the PCH204. Google
turns up nothing
about this drive apart from an ebay auction back in 2000 and a polish
newsgroup, so does anyone know anything about it and it's (presumably)
SASI
interface for the PC-1? All the bumf I can find on the
PC-1 says there was
no expandability, but I've got an expanded one :)
Any help gratefully received.
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
24 Dec
24 Dec
1:49 p.m.
New subject: Atari PCH204
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: 24 December 2002 05:08
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Atari PCH204
Hi Witchy,
I've got a stack of the buggers in my storage room.
Basically they were
intended for use on the PC Series of computers. Interestingly enough,
Atari had about 3 different versions of them, one with an Atari ASCI
interface, others SASI and another straight MFM. Inside the
PC-1's is an
ISA compatible set of headers and you plugged an adaptec
controller card in
and it would have an external interface port, one had straight
pinouts going
to a ribbon cable into the PCH204 with an internal MFM controller. I
don't think Atari really knew which way that had wanted to go at the time
and while it was a very big and bold project, they canned the PC-1 just a
few months after its launch realizing it was too little too late in
releasing an XT-ish clone in 87 and they concentrated on their
286, 386 and
486sx clones.
Thanks for that, Curt and Hans.
I'm now going to have to delve thru the layers of shielding to see exactly
what's what now; it's been a couple of years since I last had them in bits
when the machine wouldn't boot because the drive had seized. Mine has the
ribbon cable between the 2 boxes, but I remember thinking it looked like
some sort of SCSI/SASI drive though, not MFM, or did some 3 1/2" MFM drives
also have the berg style connector on?
There's not a lot of info on the web about this machine and the PC2 and PC3
either - I would've thought the likes of atari-history.com would have access
to all the details.
Oh, and if you fancy parting with one of the drives I know someone in
Belgium who's very interested :)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
26 Dec
26 Dec
12:13 a.m.
New subject: Atari PCH204
I'm working on a more indepth look at the PC-1's sometime in the future,
there's so many items from Atari I try to do a little bit on each area
across the board and I would certainly like to put a lot more up about the
PC-1's, they were very elegantly designed machines, their only flaw is that
they were only 8088's and not something a tad bit more powerful, but they
run the original version of GEM perfectly :-)
I probably can help you with getting you an additional PCH drive if you need
it, if anyone else is interested in PC-1's, I have numerous spares available
for trade of other vintage items, contact me off-list.
Happy Holidays :-)
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Witchy" <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: Atari PCH204
drives
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
> Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> Sent: 24 December 2002 05:08
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Atari PCH204
>
>
> Hi Witchy,
>
> I've got a stack of the buggers in my storage room.
> Basically they were
> intended for use on the PC Series of computers. Interestingly enough,
> Atari had about 3 different versions of them, one with an Atari ASCI
> interface, others SASI and another straight MFM. Inside the
> PC-1's is an
> ISA compatible set of headers and you plugged an adaptec
> controller card in
> and it would have an external interface port, one had straight
> pinouts going
> to a ribbon cable into the PCH204 with an internal MFM controller. I
> don't think Atari really knew which way that had wanted to go at the
time
> and while it was a very big and bold project,
they canned the PC-1 just
a
few months
after its launch realizing it was too little too late in
releasing an XT-ish clone in 87 and they concentrated on their
286, 386 and
486sx clones.
Thanks for that, Curt and Hans.
I'm now going to have to delve thru the layers of shielding to see exactly
what's what now; it's been a couple of years since I last had them in bits
when the machine wouldn't boot because the drive had seized. Mine has the
ribbon cable between the 2 boxes, but I remember thinking it looked like
some sort of SCSI/SASI drive though, not MFM, or did some 3 1/2" MFM also have the berg style connector on?
There's not a lot of info on the web about this machine and the PC2 and
PC3
either - I would've thought the likes of
atari-history.com would have
access
to all the details.
Oh, and if you fancy parting with one of the drives I know someone in
Belgium who's very interested :)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
9:36 p.m.
New subject: Atari PCH204
I'm working on a more indepth look at the
PC-1's sometime in the future,
there's so many items from Atari I try to do a little bit on each area
across the board and I would certainly like to put a lot more up about the
PC-1's, they were very elegantly designed machines, their only flaw is that
they were only 8088's and not something a tad bit more powerful, but they
run the original version of GEM perfectly :-)
I liked the PC-1, due it's compactness ... it is also a
prime example how Atari or better Tramiel was still staring
at Commodore. Down to the name a real counterpart to the
Commodore PC-1 ...
:)
Gruss
H.
--
VCF Europa 4.0 am 03./04. Mai 2003 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
27 Dec
27 Dec
10:17 a.m.
New subject: Atari PCH204
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Hans Franke
Sent: 27 December 2002 11:39
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Atari PCH204
I liked the PC-1, due it's compactness ... it is also a
prime example how Atari or better Tramiel was still staring
at Commodore. Down to the name a real counterpart to the
Commodore PC-1 ...
Right down to them actually LOOKING like each other :)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
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curt＠atarimuseum.com -
erd_6502＠yahoo.com -
fernande＠internet1.net -
Hans.Franke＠mch20.sbs.de -
healyzh＠aracnet.com -
jrkeys＠concentric.net -
korpela＠ssl.berkeley.edu -
SUPRDAVE＠aol.com -
witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk