20 Dec
2010
20 Dec
'10
4:56 a.m.
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 19:10:13 +0000 (GMT), Tony Duell wrote:
Now now, Tony, you are being unfair. I don't know about those Americans
who play that game where they run around in padded suits and helmets,
wrestling each other to the ground (I think they call it football for
some reason), but not a few European athletes are intelligent people who
do very well in ordinary careers when their athletic career is over.
And you do know of course that Dolph Lundgren has a master's degree in
chemistry? And he has studied at MIT...
Brawn doesn't preclude brains.
/Jonas
UofO teaches
mostly football, it seems. It's been suggested that it
be renamed Phil Knight University. Last year construction was
finished on an academic center for athletes (big glass cube). Now,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Isn't that a >contradiction in terms? 
20 Dec
20 Dec
5:26 p.m.
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Jonas Otter wrote:
Now now, Tony, you are being unfair. I don't know
about those Americans
who play that game where they run around in padded suits and helmets,
wrestling each other to the ground (I think they call it football for
some reason), . . .
Brawn doesn't preclude brains.
Unless you play without a helmet.
6:25 p.m.
On 12/20/2010 4:26 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Jonas Otter wrote:
Recent news seems to me to suggest that helmets are insufficient
protection. I know it's heretical, but I seriously suspect that US
style football should be banned as being way too dangerous. (If I'm
forced to wear a seat belt, why should they be allowed to do *that*?
But I'm not bitter...)
I was a lot like Tony all the way through grade school, high school and
college. As long as you don't count ping-pong and an occasional game of
volleyball. :-) I must confess that in the last 20 years or so I've
developed quite an interest in baseball, even though I only played
softball as a kid. I used to think baseball was a pretty safe sport.
Compared to US football I still think it is relatively safe, but I've
learned that it too has it's quite hazardous moments - just not every
play like football.
Later,
Charlie C.
Now now, Tony, you are being unfair. I don't
know about those Americans
who play that game where they run around in padded suits and helmets,
wrestling each other to the ground (I think they call it football for
some reason), . . .
Brawn doesn't preclude brains.
Unless you play without a helmet.
21 Dec
21 Dec
1:13 p.m.
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On 12/20/2010 4:26 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
Recent news seems to me to suggest that helmets are insufficient
protection. I know it's heretical, but I seriously suspect that US
style football should be banned as being way too dangerous. (If I'm
forced to wear a seat belt, why should they be allowed to do *that*?
But I'm not bitter...)
Funny you should bring that up. I ride motorcycles and I'm involved in motorcycle
advocacy. Motorcycle helmet technology is crippled by two things: the litigious society
in which we Americans live (there isn't a single helmet manufactured in the United
States!) and the way the law is written. There is a federal law, FMVSS218, that is a
*construction* standard: build a motorcycle helmet like this and this. It's not a
*performance* standard (there is no testing involved), and implicitly allows for no
progress - despite the fact there has been significant innovation in the design of (for
example) football helmets.
We motorcyclists are told that if we drop a helmet from waist height onto a floor, we
should replace the helmet. Football helmets are used week after week, day after day
(think about practice), impact after impact.... -- Ian
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Jonas Otter wrote:
> Now now, Tony, you are being unfair. I don't know about those
Americans
> who play that game where they run around in
padded suits and
helmets,
> wrestling each other to the ground (I think
they call it football
for
some
reason), . . .
Brawn doesn't preclude brains.
Unless you play without a helmet.
5:18 p.m.
>> Brawn doesn't preclude brains.
> Unless you play without a helmet.
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Charlie Carothers wrote:
Recent news seems to me to suggest that helmets are
insufficient
protection. I know it's heretical, but I seriously suspect that US
style football should be banned as being way too dangerous.
Time to switch to Rugby?
I suspect that much of the public WANTS to watch violence that is beyond
what is expected in normal daily life.
22 Dec
22 Dec
12:26 a.m.
On 12/21/2010 4:18 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
If Andy Capp was typical, wouldn't that be worse? :-)
Charlie C.
>> Brawn
doesn't preclude brains.
> Unless you play without a helmet.
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Charlie Carothers wrote:
Recent news seems to me to suggest that helmets
are insufficient
protection. I know it's heretical, but I seriously suspect that US
style football should be banned as being way too dangerous.
Time to switch to Rugby?
I suspect that much of the public WANTS to watch violence that is beyond
what is expected in normal daily life.
8 p.m.
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 02:18:02PM -0800, Fred Cisin wrote:
A lot of modern day public competitive sports (football, rugby, soccer,
boxing and quite a few more) are after all tame versions of the "good"
old roman circus games. Nowadays, we just don't kill (intentionally, but
it makes great press if a gory accident happens) people for entertainment.
Kind regards,
Alex.
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
>> Brawn
doesn't preclude brains.
> Unless you play without a helmet.
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Charlie Carothers wrote:
Recent news seems to me to suggest that helmets
are insufficient
protection. I know it's heretical, but I seriously suspect that US
style football should be banned as being way too dangerous.
Time to switch to Rugby?
I suspect that much of the public WANTS to watch violence that is beyond
what is expected in normal daily life. 
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