the problem is buyers jacking up their own auctions using friends or fake accts. typically early bids are not actual bids they are just to jack up the price. granted there are honest sellers and buyers but there are practicaly no controls in place for frauds, even in some cases fake items its not always the seller but its a lot harder for a bad buyer to rip people off damn near impossible if yer careful not so with bad sellers and fleabay doesnt care one damn ---------- Sent via Telus My Email 2.0 -----Original Message----- From: js at cimmeri.com Sent: 4/11/2009 6:04:14 PM To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: (was) I [don't] hate E-Bay (was ...) Annoying bidding from buyer's perspective I'll add, it astonishes me how some people expect everything for nothing. Are they fresh in from some third-world country where they earn $1000/year for hard labor? Penny pinchers to an extreme degree! jS