<>640K (or lately, 32Mb). And I suspect that anytime Allison has even <>4K at hand, she kicks some butt. As someone who has (and still does) develope hardware and software, Thank You! <"power user" t The original term is apple/mac in origin and was someone that knew the guts and made their system situp and bark(sometimes literally!). <Oh, and of late it seems to be more like 64Mb is the minimum to do anythi <with a PC suffering the Winbloat. I totally agree that these can't handl Even my biggest vax only 16meg, and my PC a measly 8mb and I run all that and winders<ok 3.1 I cheat ;)>. Code bloat has become fantastic. <stuff that any decently configured computer with less than 64k could do <Look at how fast a CP/M system can be up and running Wordstar, compared t <a Win95 system running Word97. As someone that has some 10mhz z80 systems, that is an understatement. I spent most of the 80s blowing the doors of PCs with PDP-11/23s and z80s. It wasn't till the 386/33s that that became a real contest in my eyes. At that point I started using old vaxen to make the race interesting. Allison