Two things spring to mind: 1) Did he ever stab himself with the screwdriver while running? 2) Did he think of getting a portable gas cooker/handheld? gas torch? Or weren't they available back then? (Sorry, I don't know when 'then' was) Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk --- On Fri, 29/5/09, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> Subject: Re: when soldering irons go bad To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, 29 May, 2009, 2:13 AM ? I once knew a guy who soldered kits together by running back and forth between his kitchen stove and the table with a flat-blade screwdriver.? I don't know if he ever actually completed anything. ? ? ? ? ???-Dave --Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL